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Unread 06-10-2012, 10:32 PM   #181
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I decided to spend some time with my parents today so I didnt get much time in the shop . The good news is that I am now leaving Tuesday morning instead so I have all day tomorrow to pack ,load and finish a few small things .

I got the bumper tie in's installed . They are from A to Z and they fit perfect . It also gives me a lot more confidence in case I need to pull someone out .

Next up was to figure out this cursed bes top under seat storage . After taking the seat out the culprit was clear . Its the fold and tumble bar thats in the way .I quickly came to the decision that the fold and tumble is almost useless on the drivers side so out it came .

Once the bar is cut in half a light twist will pop the two halves off of the seat frame . As thin as the tubing is I have no concerns about a loss of structural integrity .


After the tubes are removed I used vice grips to take the pivot assemblys off .

Use a sawzall or grinder to remove the last of the pivot .

You also need to cut back the front of the brackets that are under the seat sliders as they stick out . I tried bending them , but couldnt get enough clearance .


These tabs need to be flattened out .

This is what you will have after getting all of the fold and tumble stuff out of the way .



The last thing to clearance is the rear edge of the sliders . A little sawzall surgery and voila it fits !


And here it is installed . It makes for a nice secure place to keep my knipex pliers

One thing I didnt think about when cutting the fold and tumble assembly out was the reinstallation of the seat . Without the fold and tumble action the rear mounting points are not acessible to put the bolts in . With two screwdrivers you can still activate the fold and tumble so that you can gain access to the mounts . After I was done I think I figured out an easy way to still have the fold and tumble option by using a foot activated rod to tie the two linkages back together . If I decide I miss the fold and tumble then I will backwards engineer it .

This is what worked for me on my Jeep , your mileage may vary as all Jeeps are a little different . If your not comfortable cutting the brackets off the bottom dont get a bes / worse top storage box . Dont get me wrong it is nicely made and is a fair price , but it shouldnt be advertised as fitting all 97-06 TJs and LJs .

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Unread 06-10-2012, 11:39 PM   #182
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I wonder what hellish implement will reside in that lock box
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Unread 06-11-2012, 08:39 AM   #183
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Seems like a lot of bs just to store your channel locks.
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Unread 06-11-2012, 08:58 AM   #184
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Seems like a lot of bs just to store your channel locks.
I think he said it was for his Bear negotiation tool.
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Unread 06-11-2012, 09:32 AM   #185
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I wonder what hellish implement will reside in that lock box
Something that is most likely not legal in Mass ...


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Seems like a lot of bs just to store your channel locks.
It wasnt too bad , I could do the next one in 15 minutes . And a tool is going in there , but its not the knipex

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I think he said it was for his Bear negotiation tool.
That is correct sir !

So theres a slight change in travel plans . My wife decided on Sunday that her and the kids want to go west with me . So all four of us and our gear is getting shoved into the Jeep ! We are heading out tomorrow morning early so the kids will sleep for part of the trip . Say a prayer for me as four of us and all the stuff is going to be tight ...
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Unread 06-11-2012, 01:09 PM   #186
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Really like the storage box, would make a nice place to store what you plan to store maybe paint it black so it doesn't stand out as much....
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Unread 06-11-2012, 02:31 PM   #187
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It wasnt too bad , I could do the next one in 15 minutes . And a tool is going in there , but its not the knipex
Not on mine. My seats do not bolt to the tub anymore.
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Unread 06-11-2012, 03:34 PM   #188
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Really like the storage box, would make a nice place to store what you plan to store maybe paint it black so it doesn't stand out as much....
Ran out of time , I needed it dry and cured before I left . Once I get back it will get a nice coat of ultra flat black .


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Not on mine. My seats do not bolt to the tub anymore.
I didnt realize your cage had the seats hung from it . Is there enough room to mount it under the tube work ?

This afternoon I decided to flush the antifreeze and fill it back up . After a little research it seemed that Zerex GO 5 was the stuff to use and that Napa had it . So off to Napa I went and they didnt have it , then O'Reillys and I came up dry there too . A stop at Auto Zone , Advance and Wal Mart meant that it was off to the dealer . They had it but it was $21 a gallon , with the day running short and my to do list growing longer I bought it . Odd looking stuff but it doesnt really smell like the green stuff of the past . Its all in and I am pecking away at little things now .

It is going to be super tight in the LJ with all the stuff ... I am thankful I have the extra length to pack in .
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Unread 06-11-2012, 04:25 PM   #189
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Nice build man! Keep it up! Love how your front bumper turned out!
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Unread 06-11-2012, 11:04 PM   #190
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You cut me deep man
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Unread 06-12-2012, 06:34 AM   #191
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Nice build man! Keep it up! Love how your front bumper turned out!
Thanks , but the credit goes to Rokmen as its based on their design . It was a challenge to make it , but the end result was well worth it to me .



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You cut me deep man
Are knives still legal up there ? Beautiful state , but yall sure have some crazy laws .

We are on our way in the next thirty minutes ... wish me luck . My poor LJ looks like the Beverly Hillbillies
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Unread 06-12-2012, 08:20 AM   #192
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Are knives still legal up there ? Beautiful state , but yall sure have some crazy laws .
I believe the law is that any kind of knife you carry on your person must not have a blade larger than the palm of your hand.

I'm surprised you aren't storing a handgun in there.
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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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Unread 06-12-2012, 08:46 AM   #193
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We are on our way in the next thirty minutes ... wish me luck . My poor LJ looks like the Beverly Hillbillies
Luck and you cannot say this with out a picture, especially with Ma' strapped to the top.
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Unread 06-14-2012, 09:01 AM   #194
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I believe the law is that any kind of knife you carry on your person must not have a blade larger than the palm of your hand.

I'm surprised you aren't storing a handgun in there.
Its a bear negotiation tool

And our knife law is about the same .
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Luck and you cannot say this with out a picture, especially with Ma' strapped to the top.
Nothing on top and so far its been a good trip . We are on a short layover while I work here in Arkansas . Come Sunday we will load up and head for somewhere in New Mexico . The last leg will be up to Blanding ... then work and wheeling will commence !
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Unread 06-14-2012, 09:25 PM   #195
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I believe the law is that any kind of knife you carry on your person must not have a blade larger than the palm of your hand.

I'm surprised you aren't storing a handgun in there.
This is an old myth perpatrated by the old timer cops. There is not state law on blade length. You cannot, however, possess auto knives, switch blades, butterfly knives, etc.

Some towns have their own ordnances concerning blades and lengths. This state is as clear as mud.

The old saying of, Judged by 12 rather than carried by 6, rings very true in MA.
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