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Unread 11-09-2014, 09:16 PM   #1
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Indecision 2.0: A TJ dedicated for abuse.

Some people say I have ADD when it comes to Jeeps. Actually, I have ADD when it comes to everything since, well, I have ADD.

I picked up a pair of 5.9 ZJ's. The intention was to make one of them a wheeler and one a DD. Laying under it, thinking about unibody sitffeners, link mounts, etc made me depressed. That and trying to keep the sheet metal from looking like a crushed pop can meant something of an exo-cage and I'm not very fond of those....

So I cruised craigslist and found this little beauty for $2500.



A few small things wrong with it, pretty large dent in the back of the tub, and a bad water pump. Usually something like this (especially with a 4.0) goes for around $4K plus around here easy.

I already picked some axles up for the ZJ, and will use them on the TJ instead.



The front is a 2005 Superduty D60. Massive breaks, 3.75" tubes, 35 spline inners and outers, giant knucles, etc.

Rear is a 2003 Ford Sterling 10.5. 35 Spline full float, disk brakes with e-brake etc.

Budget is going to be much tighter than the last rig. I really don't want to be wheeling a $35K+ Jeep again.

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Unread 11-09-2014, 09:28 PM   #2
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Tentative plan

Even though this is a budget build, this Jeep has an AX-15 manual trans. Good trans, but I hate wheeling manuals.

So...

A: I could swap an AW4. Quick and easy, cheap, great transmission.

B: I could yank the 5.9, and 46RE out of the ZJ and stuff it in. Torque city, reliable, a bit on the heavy side.

C: Sell the ZJ and drop in a LM7 5.3 out of a chevy with a 4l60E. More horsepower, lighter weight, better fuel economy, aftermarket city.

Steering: I'm thinking hydro assist with a tapped stock box and maybe hotrod the stock pump.

Suspension: 3 link front, single triangulated 4 link rear, Currie 1.25" shank JJ's, 2" .25" wall rectangular tube lowers, 1.75" .120" wall DOM uppers.

Wheelbase will be 100"+ 37" tires, 17" bead locks, 80" track width.

You know, pretty much just another TJ on tons.
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Unread 11-10-2014, 04:42 PM   #3
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your my idol!
Your gonna have fun cutting all the cast off of the driver side pumpkin for the radius arm,
Im building my tj now on a set of 04 axles and using coil and shock, also have a buddy trying to get an 05+ to work, cant wait to see progress
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Unread 11-10-2014, 05:42 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure the mounts are mild steel? I have a plasma, so it should come off pretty easy.

My last build was with an 03 axle. It was missing brakes and a unit bearing, plus it needed ball joints. This axle is complete with calipers, so it should save me some cash.
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Unread 11-11-2014, 03:09 PM   #5
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C: Sell the ZJ and drop in a LM7 5.3 out of a chevy with a 4l60E. More horsepower, lighter weight, better fuel economy, aftermarket city.

Steering: I'm thinking hydro assist with a tapped stock box and maybe hotrod the stock pump.

Suspension: 3 link front, single triangulated 4 link rear, Currie 1.25" shank JJ's, 2" .25" wall rectangular tube lowers, 1.75" .120" wall DOM uppers.

Wheelbase will be 100"+ 37" tires, 17" bead locks, 80" track width.

You know, pretty much just another TJ on tons.
Coming around full circle eh? I dig the tentative plan
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Unread 11-12-2014, 10:20 AM   #6
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Coming around full circle eh? I dig the tentative plan
I'm going to have a pretty big feeling of Deja vu with this build.
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Unread 11-12-2014, 10:24 AM   #7
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This should be fun. They always are.
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What a steal on the jeep itself! That right there is saving a ton. So the other one sold.
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Unread 11-12-2014, 11:36 AM   #9
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This should be fun. They always are.
I'm hoping this will be my last Jeep build for awhile. I've been itching to do something street orientated for awhile.
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Unread 11-12-2014, 02:03 PM   #10
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I'd do C if I was starting from scratch. You have the opportunity to make it all play nicely!
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Unread 11-12-2014, 02:37 PM   #11
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What a steal on the jeep itself! That right there is saving a ton. So the other one sold.
I know, how could I NOT buy it? I never imagined I would be able to DRIVE HOME a TJ with a 4.0 for anywhere close to $2500. It's probably the 5th or 6th time I had a seller tell me they had to take an ad down because they've had so much interest.

I'm going to rob the stock springs off the white one and put the lift springs on it, take care of a few issues and sell it.
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Unread 11-12-2014, 02:41 PM   #12
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I'd do C if I was starting from scratch. You have the opportunity to make it all play nicely!
That's the way I'm leaning toward so far.
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Unread 11-13-2014, 10:15 AM   #13
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To avoid having to cut the oval tubed rear axle I have down, AND keep a 80" track width, I need to have deep backspaced wheels. Problem with deep backspaced wheels are they interfere with high steer... Unless the wheel is bigger like a 20. Ford has some pretty interesting stock 20" wheels that I could run until the money fairy brings me more money for beadlocks, and Nitto has a 12.50" wide 37" high tire for them. Load range E though.

Am I being stupid in even thinking about it?
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Unread 11-13-2014, 04:25 PM   #14
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Didn't someone say you can cut it and sleeve it with round tube. You'll be running 1 psi with "E" range tires. Lol
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Unread 11-13-2014, 05:35 PM   #15
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Didn't someone say you can cut it and sleeve it with round tube. You'll be running 1 psi with "E" range tires. Lol
Paul cut his down by turning some tube down to fit inside. I don't have a lathe, so I'm going to call Jantz and see if he will do it.

Not to excited about the tire choices for 20" wheels. Plus I'm not sure I'd like the look... Off to do more research.
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