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Unread 03-15-2013, 02:12 PM   #106
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ive heard that before. can you tell me why? Holm-z what do you think?
Better traction(more weight on less contact patch), smoother on road/daily driving,lighter in weight(ie:less rotating mass, more power to ground, less wear and tear on components like ball joints, unit bearings etc), less wheel scrub(less wear and tear on steering components), narrower so easier to keep inside the flares(inspection/legal reasons) while not having to add washers to your steering stops which will increase turning radius.............a pretty significant list of reasons. I briefly used 33x12.5's and switched right over to 10.5's..........I'll never go back to a 12.5" wide tire on a TJ/LJ again. My 35's(which I use for more difficult trails where the extra clearance is needed) are 10.5's too.

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Unread 03-15-2013, 02:57 PM   #107
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Better traction(more weight on less contact patch), smoother on road/daily driving,lighter in weight(ie:less rotating mass, more power to ground, less wear and tear on components like ball joints, unit bearings etc), less wheel scrub(less wear and tear on steering components), narrower so easier to keep inside the flares(inspection/legal reasons) while not having to add washers to your steering stops which will increase turning radius.............a pretty significant list of reasons. I briefly used 33x12.5's and switched right over to 10.5's..........I'll never go back to a 12.5" wide tire on a TJ/LJ again. My 35's(which I use for more difficult trails where the extra clearance is needed) are 10.5's too.
good info thanks
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Unread 03-15-2013, 03:21 PM   #108
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I personally love the 12.5 wides. It has great contact for off road and I think they look great under a jeep. 10.5 wides are certainly better in the snow due to being narrower but ive never driven the 10.5's off road so I cant really comment on that.
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Unread 03-15-2013, 03:34 PM   #109
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Here are the pics of the wiring I did. I jumped all the grounds together and go out to a single ground point. The yellow wires are all the switch lights that go to a dash illumination wire if I can find one, those are also jumped together as they pull minimal current. The Red wires are 12V powers coming in from the relays under the hood and the Blue wires are all the outgoing powers to each specific aux item. I put all the Power (red) wires & Aux (blue) wires to their own 9 pin quick disconnect that way if I ever need to change out a switch or pull the panel I will only have to unplug the two plugs vs. take all the wires out. Each wire is labed to which number pin on the disconnect as well as what Item it controls.


I then Ziptied all the wires together to keep them clean and managable when I finally install them on the dash.

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Unread 03-15-2013, 03:53 PM   #110
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I also labeled the harness as well to avoid any confusion.


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Unread 03-15-2013, 04:44 PM   #111
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I personally love the 12.5 wides. It has great contact for off road and I think they look great under a jeep. 10.5 wides are certainly better in the snow due to being narrower but ive never driven the 10.5's off road so I cant really comment on that.
I briefly used some 33x12.5's off roading, and they feel heavy and clumsy compared to their 10.5" counterparts. I am getting marginally better traction offroad with a 10.5" AT vs. a friend's 12.5" MT. Noticeably better grip through mud and wet boulders,rocks etc.........tires tend to steer easier and more nimble through the rocks,mud, on the pavement as well etc......and then there is on road ride quality......big difference there, alot less road noise and vibs through the chassis.

Looks is definetly a personal thing. From the side they look the same. From the front 12.5" wides don't look proportionate to me at all, look way to chunky. A 10.5" tire with a nice lightweight and narrow 15x7 rim with proper backspacing in the 3.5-3.75" range to widen the track a few inches and bring the tires right out to the edge of the flares looks right on to me be it either a 33" or 35" tire.
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Unread 03-15-2013, 05:04 PM   #112
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I briefly used some 33x12.5's off roading, and they feel heavy and clumsy compared to their 10.5" counterparts. I am getting marginally better traction offroad with a 10.5" AT vs. a friend's 12.5" MT. Noticeably better grip through mud and wet boulders,rocks etc.........tires tend to steer easier and more nimble through the rocks,mud, on the pavement as well etc......and then there is on road ride quality......big difference there, alot less road noise and vibs through the chassis.

Looks is definetly a personal thing. From the side they look the same. From the front 12.5" wides don't look proportionate to me at all, look way to chunky. A 10.5" tire with a nice lightweight and narrow 15x7 rim with proper backspacing in the 3.5-3.75" range to widen the track a few inches and bring the tires right out to the edge of the flares looks right on to me be it either a 33" or 35" tire.
just not a big selection of 33x10.50
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Unread 03-15-2013, 05:16 PM   #113
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just not a big selection of 33x10.50
I agree thankfully my 3 favorite tires are available and are suited perfectly for NE wheelin. :-)
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Unread 03-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #114
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I agree thankfully my 3 favorite tires are available and are suited perfectly for NE wheelin. :-)
im thinking about the KM2s
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Unread 03-15-2013, 05:35 PM   #115
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Here are the pics of the wiring I did. I jumped all the grounds together and go out to a single ground point. The yellow wires are all the switch lights that go to a dash illumination wire if I can find one, those are also jumped together as they pull minimal current. The Red wires are 12V powers coming in from the relays under the hood and the Blue wires are all the outgoing powers to each specific aux item. I put all the Power (red) wires & Aux (blue) wires to their own 9 pin quick disconnect that way if I ever need to change out a switch or pull the panel I will only have to unplug the two plugs vs. take all the wires out. Each wire is labed to which number pin on the disconnect as well as what Item it controls.


I then Ziptied all the wires together to keep them clean and managable when I finally install them on the dash.

looking good.
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Unread 03-15-2013, 07:25 PM   #116
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Where did you get those connectors?
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Unread 03-16-2013, 03:02 AM   #117
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im thinking about the KM2s
The KM2's were my 2nd pick if I couldn't get a good deal on the Duratracs.
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Unread 03-16-2013, 03:03 AM   #118
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looking good.
Thanks, Took me quite a while but I wanted it correct the first time instead of chasing problems over and over.
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Unread 03-16-2013, 03:07 AM   #119
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Where did you get those connectors?
I got them at Radio Shack. They are a standard 9 pin male/female interlocking connectors, I bought 2 males and 2 females. They had a bunch from 4 pin to 12 pin. I figured 9 was plenty, gives me a few spaces for further accessories.
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Unread 03-17-2013, 01:50 PM   #120
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so FINALLY got all the lights mounted and wired up as well as the relays and switches all connected. Only thing left for that is to clean all the wires up with zip ties and put them in the flex-tube thing and actually mount the relays. Also while I was under my jeep, I noticed my rear ujoint is basically blown apart. Great, another thing to add to the list... Good thing I found this before I did decide to put it on the road.

Im at work for the next few days so that will have to wait till later in the week. Im going to replace both Driveshaft ujoints since I'll have it all apart anyways.
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