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Unread 03-05-2012, 09:32 AM   #346
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I jealous of how much motivation you have to work so much and make so much progress. I enjoy seeing your thread pop up on pirate and here. My build or lack there of is similar to what you have going on except I've not made any forward progress in too long. Dig the 300 and krawlers, I've been kicking around a doubler for the 4-popper I have and trying to get my hands on my buddy's 35 krawlers. What will be the final wheelbase do you think?


One thing that's been stopping me is trusses for my axles. Are you not concerned with .25" being to thin with how you have it? Seems the norm is atleast 3/8" unless boxed in. I have a sheet of .25 and wanted to use it but I'm not trying to add a bunch of weight if I don't have too.

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Unread 03-05-2012, 09:41 AM   #347
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As usual, great work man! I wish I had just half of your fab skills.
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Unread 03-05-2012, 02:55 PM   #348
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You got some stuff good stuff going on. I keep getting inspired by people doing their own fab work. Keep it up bro
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Unread 03-05-2012, 06:14 PM   #349
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looks good
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would like to go with the 300 myself
Thank you, the 300 is worth it.

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I jealous of how much motivation you have to work so much and make so much progress. I enjoy seeing your thread pop up on pirate and here. My build or lack there of is similar to what you have going on except I've not made any forward progress in too long. Dig the 300 and krawlers, I've been kicking around a doubler for the 4-popper I have and trying to get my hands on my buddy's 35 krawlers. What will be the final wheelbase do you think?


One thing that's been stopping me is trusses for my axles. Are you not concerned with .25" being to thin with how you have it? Seems the norm is atleast 3/8" unless boxed in. I have a sheet of .25 and wanted to use it but I'm not trying to add a bunch of weight if I don't have too.
Thanks! Final wb is going to be 101 +/- 1". The 1/4" wall plate will be fine, it's heavily trussed and has forward support too. This truss doesn't weigh too much and I can box it more if I get concerned. Thing is, a lot of people have seen my truss and nobody has said a word of concern. The factory 4 link mounts are sheet metal in comparison, barely 10g steel and they're not even fully boxed, for reference. 1/4" does not bend easily!

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As usual, great work man! I wish I had just half of your fab skills.
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Unread 03-05-2012, 06:49 PM   #350
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Looks nice man.
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Unread 03-05-2012, 09:25 PM   #351
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Man I wish I had as much engineering skills as you. Your welds look nice! keep doing a good job so the rest of us know what to do! You've already helped convince me to remould my stock gas tank to make room for my g2 dana 60
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Unread 03-05-2012, 09:48 PM   #352
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Man I wish I had as much engineering skills as you. Your welds look nice! keep doing a good job so the rest of us know what to do! You've already helped convince me to remould my stock gas tank to make room for my g2 dana 60
LOL, I have pimped gtx's thread elsewhere too. It has a lot of good info in there.
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Unread 03-05-2012, 11:57 PM   #353
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You got some stuff good stuff going on. I keep getting inspired by people doing their own fab work. Keep it up bro
Thanks, can't afford to buy brackets

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Looks nice man.
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Man I wish I had as much engineering skills as you. Your welds look nice! keep doing a good job so the rest of us know what to do! You've already helped convince me to remould my stock gas tank to make room for my g2 dana 60
Thanks! I have my work cut out for me still but I enjoy fab work a lot. Good to know my pics and info has come to help others!

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Unread 03-10-2012, 12:14 AM   #354
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Can't find my stock pitman arm (have no idea where I put it), anyone wanna send me one?

Tank is molded and set


Reassembly will begin tonight. Painted the link mounts on the frame so this should be the last time I bolt up the suspension :smokin: then I'll make the upper spring buckets. Once that's done and everything is painted and bolted in I can finally start the np435/d300 install.

Picked up the 8 ton HF air/hydro ram for the bender too :grinpimp:

Oh and the welding cart has been completed too:
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Unread 03-10-2012, 12:15 AM   #355
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Tonight was one of those nights that I spend 6 hours in the shop and I feel like I was out there for 45 minutes...but I guess that's what happens sometimes. Oh and I dropped the tank and skid on my ankle...that felt nice.

Tank, skid, and rear suspension in place. Need to fab the coil mounts, hope to do that tomorrow morning. Once those are burnt in place I can start the brakes until my shocks finally get here.

So...new question is - do I want to use the Ford shock towers I have now or bend some tube for the rear end? It will be easier to tie in the cage to the frame later on and be set up for coilovers.



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Unread 03-11-2012, 10:27 PM   #356
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Yet another weekend when it feels like I did nothing. Saturday I spent the entire morning and afternoon just checking for clearances and cycling the suspension. I had to pound and cut some sheetmetal that wouldn't let the tank sit back enough to clear where the axle is currently set. From where it sits right now, I have about 4.5"-5" stretch and the JJs are fully threaded in the arms. If I want more stretch, I can get another 1-2" easily if I thread them out a little bit but the tank would have to be ditched and a fuel cell installed. If I put any other rear end in this rig it wouldn't fit with this much stretch. Just a caution to those of you modifying the skid - if you fully push back the axle, you have to make sure to make the indent HUGE. Oh and my biggest problem was the axle tubes hitting the tank under full compression.

Cliff notes from rear suspension:

-At 6.5" separation and no lift, upper links WILL hit the tub. I had to move the links down to 5.5" separation.
-axle tubes will hit the tank skid on full compression before the diff cover on the 8.8 and a large cutout
-put your brake lines on TOP of the truss, not the back
-make sure your truss is set to 0" with your pinion angle already set, glad I did this
-make the back of the axle flat and smooth, all of it

Cliff notes from front end:

-factory UCA brackets get in the way
-track bar brackets aren't fun to make
-.250 wall for peace of mind
-dana 30s are much easier to cycle than an 8.8
-shock placement and overall fitment is much easier in the front
-if you want to link or stretch your rig, start with the front
-3" can be attained, only tricky part is the track bar

I'll add to that later I'm sure. Oh and I am going to let the 8.8 and tank skid do a little "self clearance" because the skid is a little tweaked from the last owner. Not sure how long I'll have a regular tank. Probably put in a fuel cell on the next build.

List of items accomplished this weekend:

finished molding the tank, installed pump and lines
tank and skid installed
rear suspension installed and cycled
front suspension installed and cycled
front brake lines installed and finished
track bar sleeved and welded
FOUND my stock pitman arm
installed the antirock
painted the frame brackets (still need a little more final welding)
realized I will not use Ford shock towers; will be bending tube


New shocks will be here tomorrow, new CPS got here yesterday. A trip to the hardware store will get remaining missing items so I can wrap this up.


New to-do list:

weld on rear upper coil buckets
remove old clutch
remove old pilot bushing
install new pilot bushing
align pilot bushing
check bellhousing for runout
check runout on trans
install clutch
install release bearing
install lever arm
install np435
build d300
bench test d300 and twin sticks; troubleshoot
install d300
weld remaining unfinished frame brackets
notch rear frame
bend tube for shocks
make shock tabs; install and mock up shocks
hard mount fuel lines
hard mount brake lines
fill trans and tcase
fill tank with gas
reinstall stock parts and battery
fab battery hold down or box
fab center tunnel cover
cut armor and reinstall


Whew...what a list!


Started to fab the frame side rear coil buckets but ran out of welding wire and the guys at the welding shop sold me the wrong stuff. Damn! These are cut at the angle of the frame so they are parallel to the axle side coil bucket.

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Unread 03-12-2012, 12:07 AM   #357
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Are you still in the need of a stock pitman arm? I'm in need of a drop pitman arm.
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Unread 03-12-2012, 12:43 AM   #358
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Finally found mine but thank you.
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Unread 03-12-2012, 07:31 AM   #359
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Looking stout man. When are you planning on having it wheelable?
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Unread 03-12-2012, 08:58 AM   #360
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Just went through the build. It's going great. I can't wait to see how it does on the trail with the new suspension.
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