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Unread 03-07-2012, 09:30 AM   #181
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Very true, however there's hidden rust on the backside of the armor, where Smittybilt's cheap *** coating has chipped away. As a result, if I were to just paint over it all, I wouldn't actually be curing the problem. Last thing I want to do is promote premature rust on my rig, and even moreso, promote it on my tub lol

Were it not for that I'd just mask everything off and be done with it.
I didn't realize the armor was Smittybilt. When I reworked my Smitty stinger, I found out quickly that the "powdercoat" is easily sanded and smoothed with an orbital sander and flapper disc attachment to a grinder. Good luck to you whatever route you take.

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Unread 03-07-2012, 05:07 PM   #182
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I didn't realize the armor was Smittybilt. When I reworked my Smitty stinger, I found out quickly that the "powdercoat" is easily sanded and smoothed with an orbital sander and flapper disc attachment to a grinder. Good luck to you whatever route you take.
Yea I started on it a bit today with a wire wheel just to work the majorty of the crap off of it...



And this shows why I deemed it necessary to completely remove it...

This is what bare steel should look like.



Unfortunately, a number of spots instead looked like...



Am glad I started tackling this when I did. Luckily this pitting of the steel has barely broken the surface so it hasn't really negatively drawn from the integrity of the steel corners. I should have the whole corner bare, and ready for paint tomorrow but likely won't begin painting until next Wednesday as storms are predicted until then.
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Unread 03-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #183
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I am concidering the 4" progressive springs. I can always cut a little off the bottom should I not want that much lift.

Great write up.

I just put my Smitty rear fender guards on, I hope I do not have to take them off again. The passenger side is hard to get to the bolts as their is a canister in the corner of the 06's. I repainted my gas filler stuff and license plate mount and it look great. the drivers side Smitty slider fit fine but the passenger side will need ground to fit right.

Have you considered the retreaded tires? I can get 5 for around $900 shipped. that is pretty good.

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Unread 03-08-2012, 12:05 AM   #184
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I am concidering the 4" progressive springs. I can always cut a little off the bottom should I not want that much lift.

Great write up.

I just put my Smitty rear fender guards on, I hope I do not have to take them off again. The passenger side is hard to get to the bolts as their is a canister in the corner of the 06's. I repainted my gas filler stuff and license plate mount and it look great. the drivers side Smitty slider fit fine but the passenger side will need ground to fit right.

Have you considered the retreaded tires? I can get 5 for around $900 shipped. that is pretty good.

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Regret to inform you that if you didn't strip them down and have them painted/repaint the yourself, you'll probably want to pull them off and take them down to bare metal and do that A.S.A.P.

The paint Smittybilt uses simply doesn't hold up, and just chips away. My corners arrived with some chips on them to begin with and though the metal wasn't rusting at that point, with some exposure to use and weather it was only a matter of time. The pitting you see on my armor is a result of me not repainting them prior to install, and the subsequent 2 years of use. Mind you, that's 2 years of use on roads that aren't salted, so I imagine you'll have far worse issues with rust than I did, within 2 years.

I like the idea of retread tires, however there aren't many options for the sort of tire I like/want, there's simply not an option. At this point my MT/R Kevlars are still relatively new (mileage wise) as they've only got about 5k on them. (3600 miles from one road trip to Colorado and back, another 700ish from Shreveport and back, about another 600-700 from Lake Charles and back but I made 2 trips back and forth to Baton Rouge in that run and then just odds and ends around town etc.)

I want an aggressive tire that maintains it's road manners, and there are plenty of options for those, but none that really fall in line with the retread. There are some designed off the original MTR but I was never much a fan of the original MTR. In larger sizes it's much too noisy for my liking, among other things. Reality is I'll probably end up with another set of MT/R Kevlars after this set, but I still like to keep my options open, and of those options I really like the KM2s, Kumho Venture MTs, and MT Baja Claws.
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Unread 03-08-2012, 06:26 PM   #185
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Bit of an update.... this is after using 2 cans of the aerosol. I'm letting it cure over night and then, weather pending, I'll apply the other 2 cans to this corner. End result with be a nice thick layer that will hold up to the elements and the type of use that my rig endures. In total I'll need 8 cans for the corners, so that's 80$ total from advanced auto, less 30$ for the big 30 discount so.... after tax roughly 54$ to coat them. Not too bed considering when I'm done I'll have roughly 5-7 coats of this stuff on there.

This is using the Duplicolor bed armor aerosol. Prep work included a wire wheel and sanding wheels on my grinder as well as some light sand blasting in spots the other two couldn't access (namely the recessed notches for the bolts.)

In the mean time I'm trying to figure out a way to get into the small unexposed areas under my steel flares. There's some pretty gnarly corrosion in there and I want to get rid of as much of it as possible before I go and throw the corners back on.

A bit wet in this picture still...



Ditto...



And after drying the texture looks like this.



I'm really liking the dry texture, and though it hasn't cured yet, it certainly feels pretty solid already. I figure in total for the corners/flares I'll be 12 cans into it (because I'm putting a rather beefy layer of this stuff on it all) so that comes to about 120$ less, but I did get a 36$ quart as well to touch up small inaccessible areas and edges. In total it's roughly 160 but spread across two separate purchases for in-store, both using the BIG30 discount, so I'm about 100$ out of pocket and I won't use much, if any of the quart + 198oz worth of aerosol cans. I figure it's a pretty fair deal.
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Unread 03-09-2012, 08:54 PM   #186
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Was just inspecting the corner I've coated and realized something. I'm thoroughly impressed with this Duplicolor Bed-Armor. I can only assume the mixed/bad reviews have come from people not following the instructions. It's now cured for about 28 hours and the stuff is solid, and I'm only 50% done. I'll be adding another layer as thick as the layer that's currently covering the corners so I really can't imagine anything penetrating them. Right now the current layer is about 1.5mm thick and is just plain stout.

Before I allowed it to cure I set it sideways on a table covered by a towel not thinking, and as a result there's 2 spots on the back side where it peeled off because of my own negligence. I placed the corner, face down, on a towel about 45 minutes after I painted it. I went back 45 min. - hour later and realized "oh ****, that towel is probably gonna stick to the surface." And of course I was correct. When I pulled the towel away, off came 2 small (dime size) spots came with it.

Now that it is cured, I decided to dig into those spots with my finger nail to see how easy it peels from the rest of the surface, and to my surprise, it doesn't. It has stuck exceptionally well and I'm really impressed.

The instructions ask you to thoroughly shake the aerosol can for a solid minute before applying, and an additional minute every 10 minutes after (while using obviously.) 1 can is good for about 2 thin coats on each side of a full TJ corner. It also helps to have a well prepped surface. I sanded off every bit of everything that I could, and though I didn't sand blast it to bare metal as originally planned, I did take the majority of the OEM ****tybilt crap off of the corner. All my rust spots I sanded to bare metal until the rust was no more, a wire wheel on a grinder comes in handy for etching into pitted rust.

After getting it to my liking, I just used a nice de-greaser to clean the surface. Bleach will work just fine, or any heavy duty spray on de-greaser. I had some stuff sitting under the bathroom sink that's been aging and not been used once, so I decided to finally give it some life. Once you clean it all up and let it dry (I hand dried it all using shop towels, one to wipe off the majority of the de-greaser and another to clean up and dry any excess) you're ready to apply the bed-armor.

One thing I will acknowledge is a few reviews cited it as being messy. I've yet to open my quart so I can't comment on that, but the aerosol can be very messy at times. Excess likes to ooze down the side of the can, and it sputters all over the ground below. I elevated the piece I was working on over the lawn using cinder blocks. Don't do this over pavement unless you intend on bed-lining it #LFMF.

After applying each coat you'll want to rinse all the excess that's oozed out around the nozzle etc. using a garden hose. The stuff is water based so it rinses off easily until it cures. This will keep your nozzle clear so it sprays properly until the can is empty, instead of clogging it up etc.

Also an aerosol handle/trigger helps. Make sure to pay and get a nicer one though, as the cheaper ones are all plastic and will usually break before you finish using your first can.

Not that it's worth mentioning, but I imagine this will last a lot better than the crap smittybilt put on my corners. While the smittybilt "powdercoating" simply chips away, this stuff really holds. Once I finish it up and throw it back on the Jeep I'll do a few updates over the next year to see the long term results, but right now I'm genuinely satisfied with how it's coming out.
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[QUOTE=GraKee99;10375372]Driving on snow is a lot like sex, it's a lot of fun but if you don't pay attention, you can really mess up someone's rear end.[/QUOTE]

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Unread 03-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #187
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Glad to hear it's workin' out for you man! I think if I ever get rear corners from them I'll strip it down immediately but do it over in a Duplicolor color-matched theme with the rest of the Jeep. Chili Pepper Pearl is too cool/rare of a color to black out with armor.

Your TJ sure does look good!
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Cleaning this thing up is similar to a slightly abused pornstar throwing on a bunch of makeup to try to hide her eternal scars, but I think she doesn't look too bad
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I told you that duplicolor is legit
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Glad to hear it's workin' out for you man! I think if I ever get rear corners from them I'll strip it down immediately but do it over in a Duplicolor color-matched theme with the rest of the Jeep. Chili Pepper Pearl is too cool/rare of a color to black out with armor.

Your TJ sure does look good!
Haha thanks. Silverstone Metallic is also an awfully rare color. It was only available for 2000 and 2001 and very few sold in that color. One of these days I'll take it to a paint shop and have the body redone, but until then it's a last priority. The PSC full cage, TT, Engine Skid, Tank skid and the required beefing up of my axles all come first lol

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Yessirrrr, though I thought you meant their basic bed-line stuff which pretty much sucks in comparison. This Bed-Armor on the other hand is an actual bed-line, and it's pretty damn intense. Very happy with it
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So I was gonna buy Bilstein 5100s to replace my RS9000XLs that went kaput in the rear, but Rancho did me right on the warranty and are actually shipping 2 new shocks to me.

Good on you, Rancho!

Once I get em' in and the old ones off, they merely want me to phone them up so UPS can pick up the old ones. Not a bad deal I reckon.

Not sure if I mentioned it before in the build, but upon install of the RS9000XLs I didn't notch the spring perches. As a result they dug into the shock body pretty good, and I'm assuming that's got something to do with why they failed so early (just a number of months after install.) Anyhow, am just relieved that Rancho will be replacing them for me.
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[QUOTE=GraKee99;10375372]Driving on snow is a lot like sex, it's a lot of fun but if you don't pay attention, you can really mess up someone's rear end.[/QUOTE]

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New RS9000XLs arrived today. Rancho shipped em out and they arrived 2 days later. Hands down some of the best warranty support I've ever had. They arrived around 6 and by 6:45 I was backing out of the driveway with the new ones installed for a quick test run. I'm still not sure why the rear passenger one failed, but after I pulled them off I pretty much confirmed what I already knew...



The top one was the rear passenger shock. That explains why when pulling out and making a left turn the whole rear corner would squat and the front driver side would try to lift up. Three wheeling on the pavement be scary **** when you're not expecting it.





I didn't think to take a before picture, but...



she no longer has a gangsta lean in the rear to one side, so I'm happy

Also got the rear corner back on, and am waiting on all my new stainless hardware to arrive so I can do the other corner. I realized after removing all the corroded/rusted hardware that was on there, that I oughtta spend a few $ and replace it all with something that will stand the test of time.



Just have to wait for ACE to get my order in so I can go pick up the other 2 boxes of hardware as they only had 2 boxes in stock. 6 bolts per box, you get the idea.

And a quick pose in the driveway with the corner back on.

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Looking good bro! If i was you i would coat that gas tank skid with a layer of black spray paint. i did mine when i noticed the rust and crap and it made it look alot better. dont even have to take it off either
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Looking good bro! If i was you i would coat that gas tank skid with a layer of black spray paint. i did mine when i noticed the rust and crap and it made it look alot better. dont even have to take it off either
Thanks. That's the factory tank skid, it can rust through as far as I'm concerned lol, it's getting replaced with a Savvy tank skid before long.
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[QUOTE=GraKee99;10375372]Driving on snow is a lot like sex, it's a lot of fun but if you don't pay attention, you can really mess up someone's rear end.[/QUOTE]

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Haha thanks. Silverstone Metallic is also an awfully rare color. It was only available for 2000 and 2001 and very few sold in that color. One of these days I'll take it to a paint shop and have the body redone, but until then it's a last priority.
Yes indeed our silverstone met color is a rare find, which IMO is my absolute favorite color mopar ever made... but it is near impossible to touch up or paint to match since it's a difficult and rare paint. The only place I found that comes even close to a match is www.automotivetouchup.com . I ordered my base and clear coat from them when I painted my front MCE fenders a couple years back. Their paint is slightly too dark, but by applying light coats and some wet sanding you can make it a near perfect match.

Great build so far, and nice work on fixing up those rear corners. I just picked myself up a set of rokmen full corners but fortunately they are aluminum
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Great build so far, and nice work on fixing up those rear corners. I just picked myself up a set of rokmen full corners but fortunately they are aluminum
I love the color and am surprised as to how many, despite it's rather "plain" look, compliments I get on it. Something about the original Silverstone Metallic is just pure awesome lol. Look for a local paint shop next time you get a chance. They can take a sample from your roll bar inside of the tub etc. and match it for you. That's what I've done myself for touch up in between now and whenever it is that I decide to finally have it all repainted.

As for the aluminum full corners..... You can go **** yourself.

Seriously though, I have the Savvy bumper and have been wracking my brain over the idea of getting the Savvy full corners haha.... after all, it's only money.
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[QUOTE=GraKee99;10375372]Driving on snow is a lot like sex, it's a lot of fun but if you don't pay attention, you can really mess up someone's rear end.[/QUOTE]

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