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Unread 03-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #166
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Finally....





I was shocked to see that the Smittybilt raised winch plate I ordered (SB2802) actually has a REAL powdercoat on it and not that textured **** that chips away that they usually put on their armor components. It also came with some 1/4" steel crush sleeves to mount under the winch plate bolts that go into the swaybar holes in the event that you no longer have a stock swaybar, something I was a bit surprised to see. Nobody expects Smittybilt to be thoughtful, let alone ingenius.

As far as the winch goes, setup was a breeze! Hardest part was putting the little rubber covers over all the solenoid contacts. Other than that it all went together rather simply.

It free spools effortlessly, and as expected from Warn, everything is tight and solid. Very happy with my purchase, and for 539.99? You can't go wrong.

Edit: Note the jack under the Jeep.... Hopefully I'll get my transmission mounted back to the engine today so I can bolt everything back together and take her for a drive. Clutch swap went smooth but then my clutch fork retaining clip decided to snap so I had to take everything BACK apart, go buy a new clutch fork retaining clip (3.60 after taxes from the stealership, was amazed they had one in stock), clip it in place, and now I'm in the process of bolting it all back together....

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Unread 03-04-2012, 05:26 PM   #167
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Unread 03-05-2012, 10:15 AM   #168
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nice setup on the jeep!! mine sits in the snow right now, will be movin it in the garage and rippn the exhaust apart on mine just for a oxygen sensor...
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Unread 03-05-2012, 04:48 PM   #169
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nice setup on the jeep!! mine sits in the snow right now, will be movin it in the garage and rippn the exhaust apart on mine just for a oxygen sensor...
Invest in a space heater lol, I used to do the same back in Denver when it was below 0f so we're talking below -15c in some cases. Would turn my space heater on and let it run during the early morning hours for a few. Come back in the garage for about 10-11am and it'd be up to roughly 40-45f. Huge improvement considering....
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Unread 03-05-2012, 05:16 PM   #170
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Winch looks good.

Ya after running MCE's with no flare this winter, I plan on getting some 4 inch flares at some point. S*** was getting thrown everywhere.
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Unread 03-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #171
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Winch looks good.

Ya after running MCE's with no flare this winter, I plan on getting some 4 inch flares at some point. S*** was getting thrown everywhere.
Haha no kiddin', and thanks! How'd you like your MCE fenders if I can ask?
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Unread 03-05-2012, 06:07 PM   #172
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Haha no kiddin', and thanks! How'd you like your MCE fenders if I can ask?
They were great. I would get them again if MCE made a 'highline' of some sort. But Metalcloaks are perfect for what I want to achieve.

Now just need to decide on tires...
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Unread 03-05-2012, 08:47 PM   #173
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They were great. I would get them again if MCE made a 'highline' of some sort. But Metalcloaks are perfect for what I want to achieve.

Now just need to decide on tires...
Tellin' ya man, them Kumhos is sexeh!

If I had to do it all over honestly, I think I'd get those or the KM2s.

Don't get me wrong, I love my MT/R Kevlars, but I had a bit of an incident where I NEEDED a replacement A.S.A.P and wasn't able to get one as a result of Goodyear's inability to keep them in regular supply. BFG and Kumho doesn't seem to have that problem. Goodyear became a complete PR nightmare for me, and though I finally got it sorted out (after being stranded away from home for 6 days as a result of a defective tire) it made me realize that the issue of supply could be a potentially great one in the event I ever again am in need of a tire ASAP.

This wouldn't be an issue had I gotten the KM2s, Kumho Mud Ventures, or the MT Baja Claws.

On another note, I'm also slightly displeased that GY doesn't make the Duratrac in a 35x12.50r15.

All that aside, the MT/R Kevlars bite like no tomorrow and are surprisingly quiet for a daily driver tire with such an aggressive tread pattern. They balanced well and I can't feel them beyond about 6-7mph.

While I don't recommend this, I attended an SCCA event with my Jeep with no intentions of actually running. One thing lead to another though, and I ran down an old stretch of retired runway balls to the wall. Achieved 105mph and still had room to go with my 4.88s in 4th gear and everything felt just fine. (105mph in a Jeep considered....)
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Unread 03-05-2012, 10:54 PM   #174
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Tellin' ya man, them Kumhos is sexeh!

If I had to do it all over honestly, I think I'd get those or the KM2s.

Don't get me wrong, I love my MT/R Kevlars, but I had a bit of an incident where I NEEDED a replacement A.S.A.P and wasn't able to get one as a result of Goodyear's inability to keep them in regular supply. BFG and Kumho doesn't seem to have that problem. Goodyear became a complete PR nightmare for me, and though I finally got it sorted out (after being stranded away from home for 6 days as a result of a defective tire) it made me realize that the issue of supply could be a potentially great one in the event I ever again am in need of a tire ASAP.

This wouldn't be an issue had I gotten the KM2s, Kumho Mud Ventures, or the MT Baja Claws.

On another note, I'm also slightly displeased that GY doesn't make the Duratrac in a 35x12.50r15.

All that aside, the MT/R Kevlars bite like no tomorrow and are surprisingly quiet for a daily driver tire with such an aggressive tread pattern. They balanced well and I can't feel them beyond about 6-7mph.

While I don't recommend this, I attended an SCCA event with my Jeep with no intentions of actually running. One thing lead to another though, and I ran down an old stretch of retired runway balls to the wall. Achieved 105mph and still had room to go with my 4.88s in 4th gear and everything felt just fine. (105mph in a Jeep considered....)
Ya I've had KM2's and they were great but I just want to try something other than BFG. Kumhos are on the top of my list with MT MTZ's and Duratracks. All have abundant availability, last time I got tires MTRKs were very hard to find so I didn't want to risk a situation like you ended up in. Getting my fenders first will let my brain soak up more tire research.

What draws you to the Kumhos ?
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Unread 03-06-2012, 04:07 AM   #175
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Ya I've had KM2's and they were great but I just want to try something other than BFG. Kumhos are on the top of my list with MT MTZ's and Duratracks. All have abundant availability, last time I got tires MTRKs were very hard to find so I didn't want to risk a situation like you ended up in. Getting my fenders first will let my brain soak up more tire research.

What draws you to the Kumhos ?
Compound, bite, road noise, cost.

I don't see many people running them, honestly I've only ever seen them on a rig once. That said, they seem and I read that they're quiet for an aggressively natured tire. I imagine that's due to the spread of the tread pattern but also due to the softer compound. It's also my understanding that they hook up quite well on the rocks, as I've read nothing but good things about them in the few reviews I've found. For a tire in the same price range as all the other major contenders, it seems like a really nice, but relatively unknown option.

I've always been a man of cost effectiveness, so I seek out the most reliable and efficient way to achieve results. If the Kumhos give me the same results as say, MT Baja Claws (a very similar tire that I assume the Kumho was modeled after) for 30% less cost.... naturally the Kumhos win.

I've also seen reports of average/above average wear. 40k mile range, whereas the MT/Rs for instance, I've seen most people getting 25-30k out of.

Granted most of the other contending tires have more reviews, but the Kumho looks to be a really nice option for the price, especially if you have a daily driver/weekend warrior type rig such as mine. You tend to want the best of both worlds (also why my next set of tires very well may be duratracs or an something similar.)
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Unread 03-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #176
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So I've devised a plan for recoating my armor...

My sandblast kit arrives tomorrow so I've done a bit of brainstorming.

I intend on returning the armor down to bare metal via sanding/sandblasting it. From there (I've already set up my paint station actually) I intend on doing 2-3 coats of self etching primer and allowing it to cure over night. Next I'll apply 3-4 coats of spray on bed liner (the Duplicolor Bed Armor) and then allowing THAT to cure over night. From there I'll apply 2-3 coats of Duplicolor matte black textured paint for the "fit & finish" so to speak.

The end result will be 7-10 coats of paint and amounting up to something that I hope will be awfully durable and stand the test of time because frankly I don't want to have to do this again. This may change in the next few days, but so far that's the basic idea.

I've chosen the Duplicolor Bed Armor because it's engineered with Kevlar, the same stuff in my sidewall that allow them to stay resilient to rock thrashing, and also the same stuff our soldiers use to protect their bodies from enemy bullets. I figure if that's not a good enough reason, I'm not sure what is. That said I'm still awaiting review of it to make a final decision, as I want something that will stand the test of time.

Edit. After some research I think I'm just gonna spend the extra buck and go with Monstaliner or something similar. I've read some rather **** reviews on the Duplicolor product and the hassle of removing everything and having to do this all over simply isn't worth it.
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Unread 03-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #177
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So I've devised a plan for recoating my armor...

My sandblast kit arrives tomorrow so I've done a bit of brainstorming.

I intend on returning the armor down to bare metal via sanding/sandblasting it. From there (I've already set up my paint station actually) I intend on doing 2-3 coats of self etching primer and allowing it to cure over night. Next I'll apply 3-4 coats of spray on bed liner (the Duplicolor Bed Armor) and then allowing THAT to cure over night. From there I'll apply 2-3 coats of Duplicolor matte black textured paint for the "fit & finish" so to speak.

The end result will be 7-10 coats of paint and amounting up to something that I hope will be awfully durable and stand the test of time because frankly I don't want to have to do this again. This may change in the next few days, but so far that's the basic idea.

I've chosen the Duplicolor Bed Armor because it's engineered with Kevlar, the same stuff in my sidewall that allow them to stay resilient to rock thrashing, and also the same stuff our soldiers use to protect their bodies from enemy bullets. I figure if that's not a good enough reason, I'm not sure what is. That said I'm still awaiting review of it to make a final decision, as I want something that will stand the test of time.

Edit. After some research I think I'm just gonna spend the extra buck and go with Monstaliner or something similar. I've read some rather **** reviews on the Duplicolor product and the hassle of removing everything and having to do this all over simply isn't worth it.
Decisions decisions...

Where are you setting up your sandblasting kit, and what kind of kit is it exactly ? Sounds like a ***** to me. What made you decide against using a die grinder or something of that effect with a forgiving grit ?

Oh and those kumhos are a serious possibility at this point.
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Decisions decisions...

Where are you setting up your sandblasting kit, and what kind of kit is it exactly ? Sounds like a ***** to me. What made you decide against using a die grinder or something of that effect with a forgiving grit ?

Oh and those kumhos are a serious possibility at this point.
Not at all. 15$ gun, gravity feed tube into a bucket full of sand, the other end connected to my 30 gallon tank. Will take about 20 minutes to get my armor down to bare metal and prepped for paint. I'll basically just set a tarp down so I don't end up with mounds of sand everywhere, but other than that it's pretty straight forward.

And good stuff, if you go with them you'll have to let me know what you think as I've not heard any first hand reviews, only read reviews from people on sites like treadepot, tirerack etc. Would really like to hear first hand how they perform, which I'm sure will only confirm my thoughts on them. Either way, bet you're ready to have some new meats on the rig, eh?

Separately I picked up 4 cans of the duplicolor bed armor and a quart of the roll on (which I'll spray via my compressor & gun) to test/toy with. I did the BIG30 discount on advanced auto parts and ended up nailing it all for 51$ after taxes. Can't really beat it seeing as prior to discounts it would have cost me about 85$ after taxes. I figure the hugely discounted price as a result of my coupon hunting made the product worth testing. If the first can goes on sloppy etc. I'll just bring it all back for a refund.
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Not at all. 15$ gun, gravity feed tube into a bucket full of sand, the other end connected to my 30 gallon tank. Will take about 20 minutes to get my armor down to bare metal and prepped for paint. I'll basically just set a tarp down so I don't end up with mounds of sand everywhere, but other than that it's pretty straight forward.

And good stuff, if you go with them you'll have to let me know what you think as I've not heard any first hand reviews, only read reviews from people on sites like treadepot, tirerack etc. Would really like to hear first hand how they perform, which I'm sure will only confirm my thoughts on them. Either way, bet you're ready to have some new meats on the rig, eh?

Separately I picked up 4 cans of the duplicolor bed armor and a quart of the roll on (which I'll spray via my compressor & gun) to test/toy with. I did the BIG30 discount on advanced auto parts and ended up nailing it all for 51$ after taxes. Can't really beat it seeing as prior to discounts it would have cost me about 85$ after taxes. I figure the hugely discounted price as a result of my coupon hunting made the product worth testing. If the first can goes on sloppy etc. I'll just bring it all back for a refund.
I'm sure it'll look nice when you're done, but bro that is a lot of work when you consider you could just scuff with a 320 grit and recoat with Krylon and be done in a couple of hours without having to remove any parts.
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I'm sure it'll look nice when you're done, but bro that is a lot of work when you consider you could just scuff with a 320 grit and recoat with Krylon and be done in a couple of hours without having to remove any parts.
Very true, however there's hidden rust on the backside of the armor, where Smittybilt's cheap *** coating has chipped away. As a result, if I were to just paint over it all, I wouldn't actually be curing the problem. Last thing I want to do is promote premature rust on my rig, and even moreso, promote it on my tub lol

Were it not for that I'd just mask everything off and be done with it.
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