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post #16 of 619 Old 01-16-2014, 01:42 PM
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Tough to beat a 6 speed LJ Rubicon......gonna ditch that goofy chrome grill overlay?


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post #17 of 619 Old 01-16-2014, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Tough to beat a 6 speed LJ Rubicon......gonna ditch that goofy chrome grill overlay?
If I get rid of it, then I won't have a VIP spot at the mall

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Can't go wrong with the 3 inch savvy coils. I was gonna get the MC coils, but didn't want to do a SYE/DS yet. If you do get the coils from savvy, get the shocks that he has tuned for those coils. I believe he's working on a set of foxes and ranchos.
I was thinking 5100s since I've always had good experience with them. We'll See when the time comes
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post #18 of 619 Old 01-16-2014, 04:21 PM
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5100 are great on my LJ. Never has it rode better.

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post #19 of 619 Old 01-16-2014, 04:22 PM
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Can't go wrong with the 3 inch savvy coils. I was gonna get the MC coils, but didn't want to do a SYE/DS yet....
I might have to disagree... the MC springs have the longest free length on the market (longer than Currie 4") , and handle great both off AND on the road. When I put the MC springs on my LJ Rubi, I got about 4.5" of lift since I was unloaded... Just based on how they set the spring rates.

Not quite sure what the MC coils would have to do with getting a SYE, other than amplifying my comment above about longer free length and spring rate, but with DezertTJs Rubi SYE is not necessary...

Regardless, I think you'll get great testimonials for either spring...I just like the longer free length to reduce the chance of unseating a spring on the trail since I dont have spring-keepers And again...the ride quality is top notch

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Longer spring = earlier coil bind. You can look at the situation both ways. Unless you're planning on running 12" travel shocks and doing what it takes to support that travel, springs like MC's aren't going to be used to their potential. Currie knows what they're doing in regards to springs. Past that, don't waste your energy going back and forth on springs. Spend that energy on parts that will make a bigger difference, like shocks, control arms, track bars and sway bars.

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post #21 of 619 Old 01-16-2014, 05:52 PM
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Longer spring = earlier coil bind. You can look at the situation both ways. Unless you're planning on running 12" travel shocks and doing what it takes to support that travel, springs like MC's aren't going to be used to their potential. Currie knows what they're doing in regards to springs. Past that, don't waste your energy going back and forth on springs. Spend that energy on parts that will make a bigger difference, like shocks, control arms, track bars and sway bars.
Not arguing that- not any of it. My point, is that the potential is there. If he is thinking Bilstein 5100s anyway...he is part way there. I run the entire MetalCloak 3.5" LTSA Lite, and have their Overline front fenders. I Only run 35s, and have been stuffed to the point where I am just touching the fender, but stopped by my bumpstops. During that time, I still had room for the springs to compress further. I can see spring bind on those MC springs with smaller tires and shorter body shocks allowing for more uptravel, so long as the bumps aren't set properly...

I fully admit that I am no suspension genius, so answer me this and maybe we can all learn a little:
What good is upgrading all the other things listed if your coils don't have the length to support the travel that your other components will allow for...you'll potentially get an unseated coil on the trail, correct? Isn't it a better option to upgrade it all at the same time?

Again, sorry for the potentiall ignorance... and sorry for any appearance of hijacking DezertTJ.

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post #22 of 619 Old 01-22-2014, 01:38 AM Thread Starter
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Not hijacking at all! Been a good read. Do you like the metalcloak coils?

To add to the short and long coil discussion, stock coils are way too short!

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post #23 of 619 Old 01-22-2014, 05:34 AM
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Nice jeep. I kind of like the stance it has now, but that is personal preference. I have MC front upper and lower control arms on the way. I cannot speak to the actual product yet, but so far the company has been outstanding to work with... great communication and shipping sooner than expected.

Great looking jeep.

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Nice LJ!!! I would love the 315s on my LJ!

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...Do you like the metalcloak coils?...
I love 'em. The length allows for alot of travel (probably more than the Nitrochargers will fully support), and the rates are nice. Hopefully I'll be able to upgrade to long(er) arms and longer travel shocks in the not-too-distant future. Either way, great ride both on- and off-road.

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I love 'em. The length allows for alot of travel (probably more than the Nitrochargers will fully support), and the rates are nice. Hopefully I'll be able to upgrade to long(er) arms and longer travel shocks in the not-too-distant future. Either way, great ride both on- and off-road.
Are the rear coils holding up to the extra weight of the LJ OK? Do you have a heavy build, such as a rear bumper tire carrier combo?

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Are the rear coils holding up to the extra weight of the LJ OK? Do you have a heavy build, such as a rear bumper tire carrier combo?

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I've had them on for about a year, and they're holding up fine thus far... Hard top, big steel bumper with steel swing arm, and 35" tire mounted. I've run about 10,000 miles with them installed, including a couple of trail trips (Rubicon and Dusy Ershim) with 5 days of gear, food, and water in the back...

I'll pm you a pic or two...

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Well I found a deal on a set of 4" Currie front coils that I couldn't pass up. So those should be coming in the near future. Going for lots of underbelly clearance
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Well I found a deal on a set of 4" Currie front coils that I couldn't pass up. So those should be coming in the near future. Going for lots of underbelly clearance
Craigslist find or a deal somewhere?

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post #30 of 619 Old 01-29-2014, 07:44 PM
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Well I found a deal on a set of 4" Currie front coils that I couldn't pass up. So those should be coming in the near future. Going for lots of underbelly clearance
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