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Unread 03-04-2013, 08:10 AM   #1
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Cummins Grand Wagoneer Build

The time has come to start my build thread. I'll try to keep it short and simple with plenty of pictures.
I picked up a 1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer last year with a bad motor and decent body. My original plan was to rebuild the AMC 360, but a few weeks ago I got a rotted running 1997 Dodge 2500 diesel dropped into my lap for free. So my plan is to put the 5.9 Cummins into the jeep.

Here's the Wagoneer I have:
It came with a BJ's Offroad 6" spring lift kit and some brand new 33" tires.
Body is in good shape and I got it for cheap money so I figured it would be a good base for the project.





I live in Rhode Island, and pretty much every Grand Wagoneer frame I've seen is pretty rotted. So I repaired, blasted, and painted an extra frame I had a few months ago. It will be reinforced, and probably get a shackle flip in the back, but its in good shape.



And I love the look of the gladiator front ends from the 1st gen full size jeep so of course this one will be getting a swap too.



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Unread 03-04-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
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A little bit on the donor dodge and the cummins:
It's a 1997, so its a 12 valve turbo. I'm not a diesel guy, so this will be a learning experience for me. But I've got some good friends to help me out.
The body is rotted to junk, and the transmission is shot.



So I cut the bed off a few nights ago and I'm getting ready to tear it down. The transmission should be sent off for a rebuild in a few weeks.



Now the truck features a Dana 60 front and Dana 70 rear, I thought about using them but I don't like the vacuum disconnect front 60.
This weekend I will be taking a trip to the junk yard in search of a Ford Dana 60 HP front, and a 14 bolt rear.
I will probably end up running the dodge transfer case for now.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #3
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For a little weekend fun yesterday I saw an ad on Craigslist for an old jeep wagoneer out in the woods behind someones house.
So I hooked up my trailer and went to take a look. Found a 1963-1964 Wagoneer, hacked to pieces. Sad really, but I was happy to save it.
The nose is fairly complete, but the body and interior was gone. the frame was hacked from the middle of the cab back, but the rear axle was there.
I think its a 1963, first year of production I believe. Picked it up for $150.





Cleaned it up a little bit. The only usefull parts to me will be the headlights and buckets and grille to hang on the wall.
Toying with the idea of putting this dash in the waggy too. It'd be pretty cool.
The rest of the mechanical parts will be sold, I'm sure someone out there is looking for them.

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Unread 03-06-2013, 12:36 PM   #4
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Pulled the '63 Wagoneer in the shop today for a tear down. I decided I'm going to try to use the dash in my project.
Pictures and progress to come tomorrow night.
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Unread 03-06-2013, 03:04 PM   #5
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This should be awesome
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Unread 03-06-2013, 05:14 PM   #6
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You literally took my dream Waggy right out of my head and building it! I will be keeping a close eye on this one!!
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Unread 03-07-2013, 07:20 PM   #7
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I love diesels and I love old jeeps, this looks like it'll be awesome. thanks for posting updates, I'll be watching!
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Unread 03-08-2013, 09:40 PM   #8
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Couple hours in tonight, just tearing down the '63. Junkyard tomorrow for axles!



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Unread 03-16-2013, 06:42 PM   #9
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Made it to the junkyard today, and found a Ford Dana 60 hp kingpin front axle.
Pulled it with a friend and only paid $100. Can't beat that.
It should hold up nicely after a little work. Details on the axle build coming soon.
We pulled it out of the red truck in the way baaaaack of the yard. These things are HEAVY.



Also, got the old wagoneer dash apart, looking forward to trying to make it work.

Hopefully some real progress soon. Any input/advice on building the dana 60? Heading out next weekend to look for a good 14 bolt ff.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:58 AM   #10
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Anyone out there running a dana 60? About to order the ballistic high steer and don't know if I want TRE or 3/4" inch hole for hiems.
What should I run?
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Unread 03-22-2013, 11:07 AM   #11
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Any 14 bolt guys on here? My local pick and pull yard has two trucks with 14 bolt full floaters. The first is a 1996 gmc 2500 ss 454. The other one is a 2001 chevy 2500 hd.
Want to go pull one out tomorrow. Any help would be appreciated.
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Unread 03-22-2013, 12:14 PM   #12
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Sorry I can't help you out on any D60/14B info, but this build is looking awesome. Will be watching!
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Unread 03-22-2013, 12:21 PM   #13
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This looks like it is going to be a good one... I like where you are going with this so far...
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Just read in four wheeler that the 99' and newer 14 bolts have disc brakes. Hope that helps in your decision.
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Unread 03-23-2013, 09:50 PM   #15
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Okay decisions made, running the dodge dana 70 rear for numerous reasons. Main being that its free.
It already has 3.54 gears, same as the front dana 60 I picked up from the junkyard. Not sure how everything will work out, but for now, 3.54's will be fine.
The 70 is full float, and limited slip. Just ordered the rear disc brake conversion parts.

The dana 60 front has a pretty short driver side tube, so I will be outboarding the springs. No idea where I'm going to find springs yet, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Trying to get some progress done tomorrow, all I got done tonight was cutting the brackets off the 60.



And heres a link to a grand wagoneer with a cummins, giving me some ideas.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/feature...rand_wagoneer/
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