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Unread 12-07-2012, 04:27 AM   #1
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88 Cummanche Frame off rebuild.

This is a project that all my friends think is crazy but Im determined to finish it (kinda have to at this point) so though this build will go slow I will finish it!! Money allowing before summer of 2013.
Here is a little background:

I bought my Comanche when I was 15 for $300, its what got me hooked onto Jeeps. It served me well until the frame rotted out and I was forced to put it into hibernation and bought a TJ and then a LJ.
Last year the car club im in started renting a very large shop and that's when I decided to bring the Comanche back to life. I found a local Jeep scrap yard and purchased a 87 Comanche with a near perfect frame. I then proceeded to cut the frames out from underneath both trucks (The guys in the club think in crazy!)
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Unread 12-07-2012, 04:33 AM   #2
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Here are some pics of the Manche before I started to cut it up.
From Cummanche


From Cummanche


From Cummanche
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#5-06 Salvage Rebuild LJ
Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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Unread 12-07-2012, 04:39 AM   #3
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At a local Junk yard I found this commanche. It was a 4 cyl. We drug it out of the yard which was a pita because the steering was locked up and we had to make some tight turns.

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#5-06 Salvage Rebuild LJ
Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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Unread 12-07-2012, 04:51 AM   #4
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I then removed the frame from the parts commanche. Not a easy task.

Bed Removal
From Cummanche


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Frame is impeccable!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2002.39.34.jpg

Using the high lift to assist




8 hours later and countless sawsall blades later behold the frame
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#5-06 Salvage Rebuild LJ
Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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Unread 12-07-2012, 05:05 AM   #5
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Next came tearing down the comanche.

Bed off, not much left of the frame.




Half a truck!

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#5-06 Salvage Rebuild LJ
Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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Unread 12-07-2012, 05:15 AM   #6
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While Casual cruising CL I found it! The highly sought after Cummin 4BT!! It was still in the panel van which was a chore to get it out of since it had to come out the side door. The 4bt came with a T19 4sd which I cant use because its not long enough so the shifter would be in the dash. The 4BT had 170k ish on it and a leaky head gasket.









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#5-06 Salvage Rebuild LJ
Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
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4 BT down to the short block.





The head which during a trip to the machine shop for valve guides was found to be cracked

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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
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In July I had a lifter fail on my LJ at 34k miles. I believe it was caused by low ZZDP Levels in the oil. So I put in a 505 Performance stage 1 cam. The cam issue set me back quite a bit so progress on the Cummanche came to a abrupt halt. In sptember i started back at school and slowly started working on the manche again. I picked up a Dana 60 rear and Dana 44 front out of a J20 (Pics to Come), they are full width 66" so it will have a wide stance. I just finished sand blasting the Frame and bottom of the cab so I will post more pics soon.
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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
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Project had a little break but many many updates to come!
This is not just another failed 4bt swap thread!
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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
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updates?
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Unread 01-06-2014, 09:16 PM   #11
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Hey man, any pictures and updates? I too am curious.
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Alright its about time for an update!
I have had allot on my plate; school,work,Girlfriend, working on the wrangler, working on the Cummanche and a internship with Metalcloak in cali. So this build thread has been low on the priorities but il get caught up. Though I am a little short on pics as i tend to just work and forget to take pictures.

Here are a couple pics of my summer in cali wheeling the Rubicon




I purchased axles from a 80 J20. Front is a dana44 and rear is dana 60.
Front axle was stripped down, sand blasted, rubicon express truss/brackets, Coated in POR 15, hubs rebuilt,new brakes, new u joints and cross over steering.

Rear axle got stripped down, new brakes and is under the Jeep. Once i set the pinion angle i will weld on the barns truss and leaf spring perches.
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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
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Made long arms for the front out 2'' .25" wall DOM With MetalCloak Duroflex joints.
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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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That's awesome. Keep up the work, I'd love to see this thing done!
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After lots of cutting, sand blasting, welding and wondering why I started this project. I now have the cab on the frame, half the floors in, control arm brackets on, and frame mostly plated.



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Metalcloak Bumper, Overline fenders and Corner guards.
3.5" Sus Lift
1'' Body lift and engine lift

#4-98 TJ Sahara RIP :(
#3-42 GPW Project. Currently on hold Sand blasted the body and it was held together by screen and bondo so new Tub needed
#2-88 Comanche Currently getting a frame off rebuild and a 4bt.
#1-1994 Power Wheels Wrangler
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