i got these tires brand new when i bought my jeep couple of mouths ago and there brand new too! when i got the installed and the lift kit on it looks really nice! but here a thing are they good? Well there great tires! They are awesome for rock crawling, heavy weather condition, but the bad parts about these tires they tread so easy, they wore out so fast when the jeep not aligned, the sidewalls are weaker then the km2 m spare tire has a crack sidewall on it but its patched. But if you really need or want these tires these are really good tires i so recommenced them!