[JAC1502]

I installed a single Clarion 10 in a very well built cube box with appropriate are space and a decent mono amp in my 04 WJ. I am slightly disappointed in the sound quality. I would like to know where everyone else has there sub located and which way it fires. Thanks in advance!

[JesseOR]

Did you upgrade the other speakers? Deck? Is your deck designed to handle a sub.

How many channels is your amp?

The sub is designed to handle the lows not neccassarily all the other freq. That could be the reason for the poor sound quality.

With good quality 6x9's you don't even need a sub.
I prefer good 6x9's with a mid-range amp to some high-output amp and a sub.
Nothin like hearing all your body panels rattle apart.

[ratmonkey]

subsonic sounds aren't directional so it doesn't matter where you put the sub or how you face it.

my guess is you have crossover or amplifier issues you need to sort out.

power ratings of the sub and amplifier, what do you have your crossover settings at? what deck and other speakers are you using? what kind of wiring did you run?

[MOTHERLOVER]

Originally Posted by ratmonkey

subsonic sounds aren't directional so it doesn't matter where you put the sub or how you face it.

You can get better bass by turning your subs a certain way. My 12's sound much better pointing towards the rear. They just don't hit as hard pointed straight up.
I had another vehicle w/ 12's and they sounded better pointed straight ahead in the hatchback.
Move yours around and listen.

[painted600rr]

either face it to the rear or face it up. just move the box around and see which sounds right to you. a 10" sub isnt going to give you a ridiculous amount of bass so dont expect too much. make sure the amp is set to low-pass(LP) and the crossover is set to 80-100hz. the sound from there is going to be dependent on the box size/design and your source -assuming that your amp is of decent quality and the gain isnt set too high.

JesseOr- any deck can support an amp. most aftermarket decks will have some sort of rca out put or if you want to use the factory unit you can get a Line Output Converter or some amps have a high level input.
OP said that his amp is a mono - meaning a single channel(suboofer amp).
even though your 6x9s might produce good mid-bass they are not going to be able to handle sub-bass like a subwoofer would.

[MOTHERLOVER]

Originally Posted by JesseOR

Did you upgrade the other speakers? Deck? Is your deck designed to handle a sub.

How many channels is your amp?

The sub is designed to handle the lows not neccassarily all the other freq. That could be the reason for the poor sound quality.

With good quality 6x9's you don't even need a sub.
I prefer good 6x9's with a mid-range amp to some high-output amp and a sub.
Nothin like hearing all your body panels rattle apart.

6x9's for your low frequencies? You are kidding right? I don't even listen to my bluegrass music w/o my subs on.

[MOTHERLOVER]

Originally Posted by JAC1502

I installed a single Clarion 10 in a very well built cube box with appropriate are space and a decent mono amp in my 04 WJ. I am slightly disappointed in the sound quality. I would like to know where everyone else has there sub located and which way it fires. Thanks in advance!

What is the impedance of your sub and it's power rating (RMS and Peak)?
What are the specs of your amplifier? It is possible that if you just hooked any old sub to any old amp that either you don't have the power to push that speaker or maybe the speaker is useless in the first place. Also, is the box sealed or ported?

[painted600rr]

Originally Posted by ratmonkey

subsonic sounds aren't directional so it doesn't matter where you put the sub or how you face it.

firing a sub in different directions does have an effect on sound quality. dont believe me? go out to your vehicle and face the subwoofer forward and see how much the amount of sub-bass degrades.

[ratmonkey]

Originally Posted by painted600rr

firing a sub in different directions does have an effect on sound quality. dont believe me? go out to your vehicle and face the subwoofer forward and see how much the amount of sub-bass degrades.

flip the polarity and see what happens then.

i've been doing this a while.

[painted600rr]

Originally Posted by ratmonkey

flip the polarity and see what happens then.

i've been doing this a while.

switching the phase of the sub isnt what i was explaining.
ive probably been doing this longer.

[JesseOR]

Originally Posted by painted600rr

JesseOr- any deck can support an amp. most aftermarket decks will have some sort of rca out put or if you want to use the factory unit you can get a Line Output Converter or some amps have a high level input.
OP said that his amp is a mono - meaning a single channel(suboofer amp).
even though your 6x9s might produce good mid-bass they are not going to be able to handle sub-bass like a subwoofer would.

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant that some decks you can adjust the sub-woofer independently from the other speakers. A multi channel deck I guess...

I never said they would handle the bass, I was just stating I prefer the good sound quality of my set up than a bass boosted set up. Some like subs some don't. I personally don't care.

[painted600rr]

Originally Posted by JesseOR

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant that some decks you can adjust the sub-woofer independently from the other speakers. A multi channel deck I guess...

I never said they would handle the bass, I was just stating I prefer the good sound quality of my set up than a bass boosted set up. Some like subs some don't. I personally don't care.

no problem. i wasnt knocking your set up. only you know what sounds good to you.

[-cAcHe-]

the best setup would be close to the back seats facing back...especially if it is a ported box.. if it is a mono amp it should only be 1 or 2 channels...have you flipped the negative and positive already?

Is the woofer dual coil or single?

there could be alot of problems with the setup..please explain more.

[spife7980]

the best orientation in terms of sub direction is pointed towards the rear so that it loads off of the glass/hatch. it will give you the most bang for the buck but rat is correct in saying that subsonic is not unidirectional. but the glass tends to allow you to unload better.

what is the model number of the sub and amplifier. there are many things that could be incorrect. is the box sealed or ported, what is the volume of the box and is it sealed or ported, if ported what is it tuned to? i assume when you say cube youre meaning just a regular old sealed box which isnt ideal as it doesnt break up the back wave of the sub, angled back is a preferred as it breaks up the back wave more effectively.

if it is a dual voice coil do you have it wired correctly, my cousins set up sucked because he had it wired to 4 ohms (it was a dual 2 ohm) instead of the one ohm so he was basically running on 1/4 power.

but the model numbers is the most important information right now in addressing your issues.

[JAC1502]

Originally Posted by painted600rr

either face it to the rear or face it up. just move the box around and see which sounds right to you. a 10" sub isnt going to give you a ridiculous amount of bass so dont expect too much. make sure the amp is set to low-pass(LP) and the crossover is set to 80-100hz. the sound from there is going to be dependent on the box size/design and your source -assuming that your amp is of decent quality and the gain isnt set too high.

JesseOr- any deck can support an amp. most aftermarket decks will have some sort of rca out put or if you want to use the factory unit you can get a Line Output Converter or some amps have a high level input.
OP said that his amp is a mono - meaning a single channel(suboofer amp).
even though your 6x9s might produce good mid-bass they are not going to be able to handle sub-bass like a subwoofer would.

painted600rr

Your right on it. I from experience do not agree with the theory lower frequency are not directional and related to the sources of impact. Hence, tailgates, back seat board ect.

I have built many systems and recently finished a carPC with daylight readable touch screen molded into my dash of a project car. Unfortunately I have always worked with a trunk that seamed to be simpler to get deent lows with out much trial and error movement

That being said my wiring is is correct and of very good quality
8 gauge from the battery
less than two feet of ground wire
remote is taped into the stock infinity activation lead.
I am using a Scoche LOC
the sub is rated at 300 watts RMS single voice coil
sealed bomx at roughly .6 cubic feet
The amp (Which I did limit my budget on is a mono (one channel) Boss 1100 watt amp.
They gain is set less than 1/4 and it appears to power the sub more than enough.
The stock infinity speakers remain and they are very clear
I have played with the cross over frequencies and changed the LOC output gains.

I believe firing direction is my issue, but I am picky, so I figured with so many of us WJ owners I could get advice from personal experience.

On a side not are front door 6x9s are actually only intended of lower frequencies and are technically considered sub woofers only, the high come form the two way rears and the dash speakers.

I never expected a loud system just one with clean crisp lows

Thanks for all the input more would be greatly appreciated!!