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Unread 01-08-2007, 04:48 PM   #1
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Whats better fog lights or driving lights for bumper

Im looking to purchase some lights for my bumper, i like the PIAA 520 but dont know if i should get the smr driving or fog. any suggestions

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Unread 01-08-2007, 04:58 PM   #2
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Do you run into much fog? Do you want the pattern to be long and thin or short and wide?
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Unread 01-08-2007, 05:05 PM   #3
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Yeah i guess short and wide my head light now get out there pretty good
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Unread 01-08-2007, 06:35 PM   #4
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Basically you need to decide if you want more light with your low beams or high beams, fogs are generally run with low beams, driving with high beams.
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Unread 01-09-2007, 04:06 AM   #5
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What do you need the lights for ?

Decide that, then look at the lights that are available.

Do you want a lot of light when driving or Off-Roading ?

Hella makes good lights for both applications; Warn makes a good light that is both Driving and Off-Road. There is one out there from Q-Tec that has high/low beams in the same light similar to Warn but less expensive.
KC makes Driving lights, Fog lights and Pencil Beams for Off-Road.

Decide the purpose, look for the light that fits and looks the way you want.
Some people will mount a light for its looks alone not its purpose, so YOU decide.
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Unread 01-09-2007, 08:37 AM   #6
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Basically you need to decide if you want more light with your low beams or high beams, fogs are generally run with low beams, driving with high beams.
who told you that little tid bit of information? considering most if not all states its illegal to have fog/driving lights on with your hi beams. fact is you need to decide where you want the light. personally im a pencil beam fan followed by driving the fogs at the bottom of the list. for light on the trail i have 4 fogs on the roof but i have driving lights on the front bumper because the headlights on a XJ SUCK.
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Unread 01-09-2007, 12:52 PM   #7
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who told you that little tid bit of information? considering most if not all states its illegal to have fog/driving lights on with your hi beams.
Yay, California seems to be one exception to the above
See 24402(a): Driving lamps are lamps
designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not
be lighted with the lower beam.

But you can have 8 lamps for off-road driving :-)

http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/code...00/24400-24411
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Unread 01-09-2007, 01:34 PM   #8
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^thats funny right there. most states you can only have the fogs on with the low beams. well i guess thats the peoples republic of kalifornia for ya.
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Im looking to purchase some lights for my bumper, i like the PIAA 520 but dont know if i should get the smr driving or fog. any suggestions


Where do you stand with the lighting thing ?

Have you thought about the purpose you want the lights for ?
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Unread 01-09-2007, 07:17 PM   #10
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i actually saw a tj today that had a set of KC slim lights mounted where the stock units normally are.
dude runs a fog on the left and a driving on the right.
says the two together give the best of both worlds.
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Unread 01-10-2007, 08:46 PM   #11
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Im looking to purchase some lights for my bumper, i like the PIAA 520 but dont know if i should get the smr driving or fog. any suggestions
I posted this in the other forum u asked this in, dunno if u saw it....

Pete, I'm in Esopus right across the river, and used to go to Marist....Fog lights have saved me several times by letting me see deer on the side of the road about to cross infront of me. (you know the areas I'm talking about w/o streetlights) I have factory fogs, aftermarket will be ever better...I'd say get Fogs....Hi Beams are pretty good for long range when combined with fogs for shorter range


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^thats funny right there. most states you can only have the fogs on with the low beams. well i guess thats the peoples republic of kalifornia for ya.
CVC24402a deals with driving lights, not fog lights.
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Unread 01-11-2007, 08:40 AM   #13
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driving lights and fog lights are usually interchangable in wordings of "law". most are refering to lights other than headlights.
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Unread 01-11-2007, 09:10 AM   #14
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actually no.
two seperate things.

and you need to read the ENTIRE law before quoting it.

24402. (a) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two
auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height of not less
than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches. Driving lamps are lamps
designed for supplementing the upper beam from headlamps and may not
be lighted with the lower beam.

24403. (a) A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two
foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution
of, headlamps.
(b) On a motor vehicle other than a motorcycle, the foglamps
authorized under this section shall be mounted on the front at a
height of not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches and aimed
so that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high-intensity
portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle
projects higher than a level of four inches below the level of the
center of the lamp from which it comes, for a distance of 25 feet in
front of the vehicle.

24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing
to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time:
(1) Headlamps.
(2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps.
(3) Fog lamps.
(4) Warning lamps.
(5) Spot lamps.
(6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.

Oh. And just to be complete:

24411. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle may be
equipped with not more than eight lamps for use as headlamps while
the vehicle is operated or driven off the highway. The lamps shall
be mounted at a height of not less than 16 inches from the ground, or
more than 12 inches above the top of the passenger compartment, at
any place between the front of the vehicle and a line lying on a
point 40 inches to the rear of the seat occupied by the driver, shall
be wired independently of all other lighting circuits, and, whenever
the vehicle is operated or driven upon a highway, shall be covered
or hooded with an opaque hood or cover, and turned off.
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Unread 01-11-2007, 12:33 PM   #15
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is that Ca code? or D.O.T. code?
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