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Unread 04-26-2008, 10:08 AM   #1
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TrailRock - Best Speakers for Stock TJ Head Unit?

I have an '05 TJ. It was an X, so it's only got the two overhead speaker pods and the two dash speakers. I am looking for the best speakers to give decent sound with the stock head unit.

I know I will need to get or make brackets so I can put some 5.25" in the dash, and I am prepared for that. I do not want amps, subs, or any of that because with the tools and recovery gear I bring wheeling with me, I just don't have room for all of that stuff. I'm willing to spend $ on four great speakers and the brackets I mentioned above, but that's it - I'm just looking get the most out of that upgrade.

I appreciate the advice...

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Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony...anything you can find with the lowest RMS rating possible. You might also want to check out the Kickers that Quadratec carries that plug right in to the factory harness.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/14133_2X1_PG.htm

I'd go listen to some 5 1/4" Kicker speakers before ordering those, of course. Don't buy anything you can't hear first.
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What is the RMS rating? What does it mean, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
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Oh, sorry. The RMS is the wattage the speaker is built to handle continuously. Your factory HU puts out very low wattage, so you'll get the best results with a speaker that's also built to handle low wattage. This is not to be confused with "max" or "peak" power, which is a meaningless number, for all intents and purposes. Some companies refer to RMS wattage as "continuous power" or something of the sort. Look for speakers that are rated 30 watts RMS or lower. On the link I posted above, if you look at the bottom of the page, you'll see that the RMS power rating on those speakers is 6-35 watts. Your stock head unit probably puts out somewhere around 10 watts per channel.
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Yup, if you're dead set on no amp, keep the rated RMS of the new speakers as low as possible so the head unit can maintain the most control over them. Even after market radios that say 50Wx4 don't really do that. Most of them are 18-22W of usable power. RMS is all that matters. Don't let salesmen tell you differently as unfortunately, most of them really have no idea what they're doing.

However, you could also add a small amp to the mix and still keep the stock head unit and such if you want to get more volume out of the combination. Still, go listen to speakers before buying anything.
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Don't suppose I could convince you to get a new head unit? It's not as good as an amp, but it would REALLY help and not take up any extra space. Could even let you run USB, ipod and other non-skip medias for trail riding.
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Don't suppose I could convince you to get a new head unit? It's not as good as an amp, but it would REALLY help and not take up any extra space. Could even let you run USB, ipod and other non-skip medias for trail riding.
I suppose I could consider a new head unit. It would be nice to have direct plug-in capability for my iPod, instead of the FM transmitter that I use now. Do you have a specific brand/model in mind?
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I appreciate the advice everyone. Does anyone else have specific recommendations for the brand/model of speakers?
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I use Memphis Audio without an amp and the stock head unit. I like the sound I get from them.
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Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony...anything you can find with the lowest RMS rating possible. You might also want to check out the Kickers that Quadratec carries that plug right in to the factory harness.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/14133_2X1_PG.htm

I'd go listen to some 5 1/4" Kicker speakers before ordering those, of course. Don't buy anything you can't hear first.
I went with the kicker coaxials (before they became the catalog drop-ins) and they were great off the factory headunit. I still have a set for rear-fill in my soundbar. They're also really durable, mine have been through many rainstorms, a tornado (yes in CT), and just having the top down may-sept.

You can also check out infinity speakers or mb quart since both are known to get loud off minimal power.

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2964

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...Product_ID=987
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I suppose I could consider a new head unit. It would be nice to have direct plug-in capability for my iPod, instead of the FM transmitter that I use now. Do you have a specific brand/model in mind?
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I appreciate the advice everyone. Does anyone else have specific recommendations for the brand/model of speakers?
Alpine. I love my unit. Look at the CDA models. I have the 9886. Pricey, but I can listen to nearly any format out there besides DVDs.

But if you have an Ipod, you probably don't need a USB port unless you want one.

I'd suggest the CDA 9885. The biolite display is VERY nice and very easy to read.

Here's a pic of my unit:



The face pops off too. Sound quality is much better, even with the stock speakers. I ran with just the headunit on the stock system and it was much better, much sharper of a sound.

As for speakers, I went with Focal. Best sounding speakers I came across. And the ones in the pods have a surprising amount of bass.
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Well, I got the Alpine head unit that bman suggested and also the Infinity Reference 5.25s front and rear. Sounds much better now. I also ordered the Alpine KTP-445 amp, which goes on the back of the head unit and won't take up any of my tool/recovery gear space. 4 X 45W

Thanks for the help on this.
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Thanks for the pix Bman, I have been looking at the Alpine brands and it looks sweet in the dash.

Now I need to consider the best way to turn all the dash lights blue to match it.
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Well, I got the Alpine head unit that bman suggested and also the Infinity Reference 5.25s front and rear. Sounds much better now. I also ordered the Alpine KTP-445 amp, which goes on the back of the head unit and won't take up any of my tool/recovery gear space. 4 X 45W

Thanks for the help on this.
when you get that amp, post up some pics. It's a very interesting idea, and perfect for jeeps and what little space we have, so I'm interested to see what it really looks like.
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Thanks for the pix Bman, I have been looking at the Alpine brands and it looks sweet in the dash.

Now I need to consider the best way to turn all the dash lights blue to match it.
Here's a good thread about it. I've thought about doing the same. Blue LEDs look good, and would match the stereo really well.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/dash-cluster-makover-heres-pics-370486/
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