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Unread 06-05-2013, 06:04 PM   #1
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TJ Sound System for $300 or Less

I've got a $300 gift card to burn at Best Buy. I want to add speakers and maybe an amp to my TJ without spending any $$$ out of pocket. Sound quality is still a factor.


I already have an old Pioneer DEH-6900UB in the deck, so that's covered. I'm not buying another head unit...this is just about speaker/amp setup I can get for $300 at Best Buy...they have to be in store or online. Not interested in a woofer.

Here are my deck's specs:

RMS Power Output - 22 watts
Peak Output - 50 watts
RMS Power Bandwidth - 50-15kHz


I've been looking at Alpine's SPS-510's for the front (requires a bracket?) and SPS-610's for the soundbar...so that at least gets me going. I haven't built a system in years and am pretty clueless on specs.

SPS-510: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...specifications
SPS-610: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...specifications

That speaker combo already puts me at $190.


So what do you guys think?

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Unread 06-05-2013, 08:57 PM   #2
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You'll need to get the dash bracket, check with nalinmfg.com he's a member here and has them on eBay too.

Alpine makes a good speaker, those would be a good choice but they run the Polk line buy one get one half off all the time.
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Unread 06-05-2013, 09:04 PM   #3
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You'll need to get the dash bracket, check with nalinmfg.com he's a member here and has them on eBay too.

Alpine makes a good speaker, those would be a good choice but they run the Polk line buy one get one half off all the time.
This Polk 6.5 speaker seems to be better spec'd than the SPS-610 Alpines...better RMS wattage, better freq response, and better sensitivity.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0300000


Same with the 5.25" version...Polk vs. SPS-510 Alpine, the Polk appears to have better specs. I'm not a sound engineer, am I missing something here?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0300000
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Unread 06-05-2013, 09:06 PM   #4
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You should listen to the speakers everyone likes something different.
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Unread 06-05-2013, 10:14 PM   #5
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You should listen to the speakers everyone likes something different.
Good advice but it will sound different in your vehicle. I have about $60.00 in my jeeps mids and highs right now. It sounds pretty good but my deck and amp has a ton of tuning options and I have a pretty good idea how to use them. I would guess your not an audiophile? I think you should be able to do allright at Best Buy on 3 bills. Make sure you go to your local store and check the dump table. Might be able pick up some nice returns for cheap. I picked up some garbage Rockfords components for cheap a few years ago from Best Buy. I replaced them with some cheap MTX 2 ways after the tweeters and crossovers went "splody" about a week after I bought them but hey... They where a great deal for some supposedly kick *** speakers.
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Unread 06-06-2013, 11:52 AM   #6
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Good advice but it will sound different in your vehicle. I have about $60.00 in my jeeps mids and highs right now. It sounds pretty good but my deck and amp has a ton of tuning options and I have a pretty good idea how to use them. I would guess your not an audiophile? I think you should be able to do allright at Best Buy on 3 bills. Make sure you go to your local store and check the dump table. Might be able pick up some nice returns for cheap. I picked up some garbage Rockfords components for cheap a few years ago from Best Buy. I replaced them with some cheap MTX 2 ways after the tweeters and crossovers went "splody" about a week after I bought them but hey... They where a great deal for some supposedly kick *** speakers.
It isn't that I'm not an audiophile, but I understand and accept the inherent limitations of the TJ for sonic quality, so I'll polish the turd to a certain point and call it good.

I really like what I'm seeing for those Polks. Any reason those 6.5" speakers wouldn't fit the soundbar? They're 2-5/16" deep.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Polk-Aud...=1218205765007
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Polk-Aud...=1218207314797

Anyone have thoughts on an amp? I understand there's a small 4-channel power pack that can be mounted behind the stereo deck?
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my vote goes to the polkaudio also. I have the 6.5 inmy soundbar and like them. They are also marine certified so they function well in a trail jeep. If you look for deals they go on sale all thetime at best buy,a few weeks ago youcould get the 6.5 for 39.99 you can run 5.25 in the front without a plate by getting creative with mounting, many use 2 screws and zipties goodluck
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Unread 06-06-2013, 01:59 PM   #8
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This is the power pack amp I referenced...anyone have thoughts for this unit driving the Alpines or Polks I linked?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=4769803


Height - 1-1/2"
Width - 2-5/8"
Depth - 1-1/2"
Weight - 3.3 pounds

Continuous Watts per Channel (4 Ohms) RMS - 45 x 4
Continuous Watts per Channel (2 Ohms) RMS - 45 x 4
Continuous Watts Bridged - 90
Peak Power Watts per Channel (4 Ohms) - 45 x 4
Peak Power Watts per Channel (2 Ohms) - 45 x 4
Max Power Watts per Channel (4 Ohms Bridged) - 90
Number of Channels - 4
1 Ohm Stable No
Amplifier Class and Type - Class D
Tri-Mode No
High-Pass Filter Yes
Low-Pass Filter No
Line-Level Input Yes
Speaker-Level Input Yes
Passthrough - No
Signal-to-Noise Ratio - 80dB
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Good advice but it will sound different in your vehicle. I have about $60.00 in my jeeps mids and highs right now. It sounds pretty good but my deck and amp has a ton of tuning options and I have a pretty good idea how to use them. I would guess your not an audiophile? I think you should be able to do allright at Best Buy on 3 bills. Make sure you go to your local store and check the dump table. Might be able pick up some nice returns for cheap. I picked up some garbage Rockfords components for cheap a few years ago from Best Buy. I replaced them with some cheap MTX 2 ways after the tweeters and crossovers went "splody" about a week after I bought them but hey... They where a great deal for some supposedly kick *** speakers.
Not to bash ya man but $60 isn't all that much for mids/highs, I thnk an xplod comp set cost more than that now. I'm running CDT comps backed by 100 atts rms on each side and that's just to get warmed up. For the average listener as the OP seems to be, a decent set of aftermarket speakers, backed by clean power and a reliable source signal is going to sound light years beyond the worn oem set-up. *2 cents*

The power pack is a great little amp, easy to stash in the dash. Some people have complained it doesn't seem to give rated power but all Alpine Amps are compliant (tested to do rated power). The PP will only give the polks you linked half power so you may want to go with the Alpines.

I would probably steer clear of the return table at bestbuy, most of it is returns from the install bay and some things can be seriously wrong with amps and speakers from there.
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Yeah. I didn't even think about it when I posted but I bought my rear fill speakers about 6 years ago on sale. My whole stereo other than my amp for the highs was less than $800.00 for everything but I was able to get some stuff at cost and other stuff on a pretty deep discount. I also bought almost all of it at least 6 years ago. Either way you should be able to get some good sound for $300.00. Good audio does not have to cost a lot.

Sammich, those polks look good to me too. For an amp do you want the adjustabilty of a 4 channel amp (fade front to rear) or just a 2 channel amp?
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This is the power pack amp I referenced...anyone have thoughts for this unit driving the Alpines or Polks I linked?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=4769803

Height - 1-1/2"
Width - 2-5/8"
Depth - 1-1/2"
Weight - 3.3 pounds

Continuous Watts per Channel (4 Ohms) RMS - 45 x 4
Continuous Watts per Channel (2 Ohms) RMS - 45 x 4
Continuous Watts Bridged - 90
Peak Power Watts per Channel (4 Ohms) - 45 x 4
Peak Power Watts per Channel (2 Ohms) - 45 x 4
Max Power Watts per Channel (4 Ohms Bridged) - 90
Number of Channels - 4
1 Ohm Stable No
Amplifier Class and Type - Class D
Tri-Mode No
High-Pass Filter Yes
Low-Pass Filter No
Line-Level Input Yes
Speaker-Level Input Yes
Passthrough - No
Signal-to-Noise Ratio - 80dB
I'm powering two pairs of Kenwood kfc-709ps component speakers with it and it works awesome.
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Yeah. I didn't even think about it when I posted but I bought my rear fill speakers about 6 years ago on sale. My whole stereo other than my amp for the highs was less than $800.00 for everything but I was able to get some stuff at cost and other stuff on a pretty deep discount. I also bought almost all of it at least 6 years ago. Either way you should be able to get some good sound for $300.00. Good audio does not have to cost a lot.

Sammich, those polks look good to me too. For an amp do you want the adjustabilty of a 4 channel amp (fade front to rear) or just a 2 channel amp?
I don't think I'm worried about that (lol). I really just want to be able to push the right levels to the speakers that they need to function appropriately. I had a inexpensive 4-channel amp under the back seat of my 98 TJ and never touched the settings again once I placed them where I felt was right.
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Not to bash ya man but $60 isn't all that much for mids/highs, I thnk an xplod comp set cost more than that now. I'm running CDT comps backed by 100 atts rms on each side and that's just to get warmed up. For the average listener as the OP seems to be, a decent set of aftermarket speakers, backed by clean power and a reliable source signal is going to sound light years beyond the worn oem set-up. *2 cents*
I was never really a fan of the CDTs I ran, to me they never sounded right. These were what I ran http://www.woofersetc.com/p-4630-ef-...5-tweeter.aspx
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The CDTs need to have a lot of power behind them, they're greedy, and a proper tweeter location. I struggled with mine for the longest time until nalinmfg.com made his tweeter braket, it's the perfect location.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 09:33 AM   #15
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The power pack is a great little amp, easy to stash in the dash. Some people have complained it doesn't seem to give rated power but all Alpine Amps are compliant (tested to do rated power). The PP will only give the polks you linked half power so you may want to go with the Alpines.
Any recommendations on another small amp that would provide the Polks the right level of power?

I tend to take the back seat out from time to time, so I'm trying to find an amp that is stashable elsewhere in the vehicle.
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