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Unread 10-13-2004, 12:23 AM   #1
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Suggestions on Satellite Radio/Audio Choices

Suggestions on Satellite Radio/Audio Choices
I'm looking into a new H/U and an
upgraded speaker set-up for my '04 Rub.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Here's a short list of questions.
1. Sirius or XM, which is better, and why...
2. Looking to fit a Satellite ready H/U don't
really want to use the add-on kit. Which
brand/model would you recommend.
3. Where would one install the adapter and
the ant. so it wouldn't interfere with top removal.
4. What would you recommend for a speaker
upgrade, I'm pretty sure I'm going to switch
the front 4x6s with a set of 5 1/4's.
5. Any other opinions suggestions or do's+don't
would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Dave


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Unread 10-13-2004, 12:35 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Rubie Nubie
Suggestions on Satellite Radio/Audio Choices
I'm looking into a new H/U and an
upgraded speaker set-up for my '04 Rub.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Here's a short list of questions.
1. Sirius or XM, which is better, and why...
2. Looking to fit a Satellite ready H/U don't
really want to use the add-on kit. Which
brand/model would you recommend.
3. Where would one install the adapter and
the ant. so it wouldn't interfere with top removal.
4. What would you recommend for a speaker
upgrade, I'm pretty sure I'm going to switch
the front 6x9's with a set of 5 1/4's.
5. Any other opinions suggestions or do's+don't
would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Dave
First, this question will be answered better in the radios and electrical section . I would go with Sirius, simply because Howard Stern has signed on with them . Receiver, I went with Pioneer. Ant., I had mine mounted on the inside of my jeep, ran up through the roll bar padding near the front window (well hidden of course). Can you switch the front speakers to 6x9's? I know they make brackets to fit larger speakers in the front, but 6x9's? And to answer #5, I turn this over to SirGcal; SirGcal, if you please........
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Unread 10-13-2004, 01:09 AM   #3
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I went with XM and I'm really enjoying its ad-free (except on TV feed news channels like Fox, CNN, CNBC, etc.) content. And considering Sirius has lost $5B in the past five years, I'm not so sure they'll win in this contest between XM and Sirius. Now that I know that America's trash-jock Mr. No-Class Howard Stern has gone to Sirius, I'm even happier with my choice of XM.
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Unread 10-13-2004, 01:19 AM   #4
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I went with XM for the exact reason that Jerry mentioned. The industry is very cost heavy and XM has a huge customer base compared to the other.

Pioneer has most of their units XM ready and you can get a small external tuner that will interface with any XM ready Pioneer head. I mounted my antenna out on my hood and it performs well. I notched out the windshield washer jet to pass the antenna wire.
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Unread 10-13-2004, 01:25 AM   #5
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i have xm in both my vehicles and love it. i havent listened to fm since. i cant comment on sirrus since i dont know about it, but even if u choose that it will still be leaps and bounds over fm. i love talk radio and there is talk on 24/7, plus the sound quality is great
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Unread 10-13-2004, 09:24 AM   #6
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I personally don't care for either of them.. But that's just my personal preference. From installing the systems though, I will say this.

The realistic differences between Sirius and XM right now are simply that Sirius seems to be more expensive, has a few less channels

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XM is 68 Commercial-Free Music Channels, 33 Channels of News, Sports, Talk & Entertainment, 21 dedicated Channels of XM Instant Traffic & Weather, and the Deepest Playlist in the industry with access to over 2 million titles! All for just $9.99 a month with no contracts.
+$6.99/month for multiple recievers up to 5 total recievers.

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You'll get exclusive access to 65 channels of the best 100% commercial-free music, plus 55 channels of sports, news and talk.. (For Only $12.95/mo or a special one time fee of $499.99 until 12/31)
+$6.99/month for multiple recievers up to 4 total recievers.

Both get cheaper if you pay in bulk.

Most people choose by content. But alot of people choose by going with the brand their preferred after-market manufacturer uses. Like Alpine is XM and Clarion is Sirius. Soon however, manufacturers will offer units capable of recieving both formats so that will also no-longer be a limiting factor (look for Eclipse and Alpine to be one of the first to do it.) So this could effect your second question and you might have to decide; which is more important. Satellite radio choice or manufacturer radio brand choice? Luckily both brands have some excelent manufacturers backing them. Alpine is the only one I'm currently aware of that has an on-board reciever though. Requiring only an antenna which I think is even included with the unit on the Alpine CDA-9820XM. This could be both pro and con to the item but it's an option.

The best place for the antenna is on the highest flat surface of the vehicle. If you have a TJ or other wrangler, this poses a small issue and people have gotten creative with their placement. The recievers are small enough to be tucked in a number of places but the antenna does need to have a pretty good shot to the sky. Some people put them on the cowl and that seems to work ok. Others have put the slim ones under the cloth on the sound-bar and that seems to work ok too. Neither of these are ideal options but there is no ideal spot in a wrangler. I've even heard of people mounting them to the spare tire mount somehow and having fair luck with that location also. It really depends on the area you live in and if you need to depend more on the satellites or groudn repeaters more to which you might choose. On any vehicle with a solid roof, no question somewhere uptop is the best for the antenna. Not to close to a rack or other item.

As for your forth question... I'm not sure which vehicle comes with 6x9" upfront. Did you mean the 4x6" fronts of a wrangler? That would be a good idea if so... The round speakers, in my opinion, have a smoother sound and distort less than off-shaped speakers.
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Unread 10-13-2004, 01:09 PM   #7
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Sorry about the placement, thanks for the move
Thanks to everybody for the help I really appreciate it.
And sorry for the typo, I guess I'm showing my age...4x6
instead of the incorrectly stated 6x9's...
Anybody else have any other ideas.
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Sirius has lost $5B in the past five years, I'm not so sure they'll win in this contest between XM and Sirius. Now that I know that America's trash-jock Mr. No-Class Howard Stern has gone to Sirius, I'm even happier with my choice of XM.
They have lost money, but the stock for Sirius has jumped up and has done nothing but rise since the announcement that Howard Stern will be Blessing their airwaves. No-class? That's why you got to love him. I guess it's just personal preference there Jerry. I'm sure Howard's glad you're an XM listener (not to rip on XM, got it in my wife's car).
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Look at http://www.xmradio.com/xm_direct/

Tuner and antenna is $49 and the cable adapter is $49.

This will allow you to hook XM into many, many factory & aftermarket systems, very easily.
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I'm selling my sirius antenna and tuner for $75 if anyones interested.
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Here are some pics of the hood mount:



Trimmed the corner of the washer jet to pass the antenna wire:
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Unread 10-14-2004, 10:47 AM   #12
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I went with the alpine 9820XM head unit. It's the only model with the sat receiver already installed. I can't complain but others might since you don't get to see the channel number/title/artist all at the same time. It has plenty of power and works fine in a vertical mounting position. Put the antenna under the rollbar padding, it works fine there, won't mess up your paint, and nobody knows you have it. I put the head unit in a tuffy console and left the blank plate in the dash.
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