[jgorm]

Sure nothing is theft proof, (a flatbed will take anything) but this is my current attempt at protecting my new jeep after my old one got jacked. I got a pager alarm with a kill switch (crtuchfield crime guard), and lojack with the early warning system. This will call the cops if the jeep is moved without the rfid on my key chain within 10 minutes.

When i put the kill switch in i used a ton of electrical tape to wrap all the ignition wires any place they were accessible. Then i wrapped bailing wire around them. The a few layers of duct tape (557, the good stuff), then zip ties every 1/4", then more duct tape. I alternated the wrap direction of the duct tape on each piece so you can't just "unwind" it. I used a crap load of duct tape around the connector that goes to the ignition circuit so it won't be easy to remove. I figure it would take the thief at least 10 minutes to gain access to the wires needed to hotwire the jeep. Plus it has the sentry key, but i'm sure the thieves can bypass that very easily with all the remote start module things made to disable it. The alarm has tilt, vibration, glass break, and a microwave sensor for when the top is down. I may end up getting a clutch club like the autolock thing. What do you guys think? Anything else that may help? I have some pics on my camera, but it may be a few days before i can upload them.

[danwags999]

Damn, that's some serious stuff right there.

[theducksguts]

Self destruct

[jgorm]

Originally Posted by theducksguts

Self destruct

I pondered rigging a shotgun shell pointed up under the drivers seat, but figured it would be a bad idea if I had a few beers and forgot to disarm it!

If the potential thief tries to dent pull the tumbler, then the starter kill will save me. If he goes for a straight hot wire, he will have a hell of a time with the mess i made! I wonder how they pop the steering wheel lock? We tried to bust one on an old POS junker that we lost the keys for and we couldn't break it. Oh yeah, i also wadded up duct tape and crammed it into the holes for the screws on the steering wheel pod. Damn thieves can burn in hell!

[Slithering_Joe]

I have an image in my head of a guy laughing like a mad scientist while wrapping a wire harness with a 1,000 layers of duct tape.

Sorry to hear about your Jeep. Thieves should be shot.

[airdevil85]

lol this is gonna sound bad but I had a ford explorer, I was at a car show near harrisburg bout 3 hours from home and I broke the only key... to get my truck started I simply pried the lock cylinder out with a flat head screwdriver and used that to start the truck... expensive lesson though I think the new cylinder and key was around 150 for that truck through the dealer??

[XJ Jay]

you do know that remotestarter bypasses need the key to program, therefor it would be impossible to bypass the factory anti theft with just a starter bypass. to date im not aware of how to bypass sentrykey to steal it like you can a GM with PK2, so you sorta wasted your time. also no body "hotwires" a car, the smash the crap outta the steering column to gain access to the lock cylinder and ignition switch and turn the switch. and any half decent car theif can bypass a stater kill with a paper clip. in my home town here, bylaw certin vehicles that do not have a anti theft device such as sentry key need to have a immobilizer installed. autowatch and autogard are the 2 brands recognized my our provincial government, i think this would have been a better route for you as, it disables 3 circuits of the vehicle, starter,fuel, and ignition. it has a RF key fob that needs to be scanned in order to disable the immobilizer, much like the sentry key already does in your TJ

[Sccafire]

What about something simple like a hood lock and a battery disconnect that requires a key to turn off and on.

[ng4thraider]

My dream security system would work like this:

I would have a two way pager\remote system on it so that i could be warned of a break in and be able to send commands to the system to control the following custom features...

1. Fuel shutoff

2. Door actuators that would drive pins (1/2") from inside doors into the body. Basically locking the door like a safe. (I have a hardtop with fulldoors)

3. An internal two way communication so I can laugh at whomever is inside, and here the screams from the effects of number 4

4. A nice red button on the remote labeled AIRBAG DEPLOYMENT

5. I was thinking you could also mount two window washer sprayers under the hood that sprayed into the HVAC system. Fill one with bleach and one with Ammonia. (wait number 5 may be taking it over the edge)

[The_Blacksmith]

the only thing saving you is the lojack and alarm.

you can start most vehicles without even getting inside of them.

[Deezelweazel]

Don't use a club- it useless.
Thiefs don't cut the club, they cut the steering wheel. If seen it in the Netherlands.
If you build in an alarm, make sure you have small backup battery installed.

They sold a system injecting tear gas into the car- to bad it deployed during a false alarm causing a deadly accident

[jgorm]

Originally Posted by airdevil85

to get my truck started I simply pried the lock cylinder out with a flat head screwdriver and used that to start the truck...

The sentry key and starter kill should slow them down a bit.

Originally Posted by XJ Jay

to date im not aware of how to bypass sentrykey to steal it like you can a GM with PK2, so you sorta wasted your time. also no body "hotwires" a car, the smash the crap outta the steering column to gain access to the lock cylinder and ignition switch and turn the switch. and any half decent car theif can bypass a stater kill with a paper clip.
in my home town here, bylaw certin vehicles that do not have a anti theft device such as sentry key need to have a immobilizer installed. autowatch and autogard are the 2 brands recognized my our provincial government, i think this would have been a better route for you as, it disables 3 circuits of the vehicle, starter,fuel, and ignition. it has a RF key fob that needs to be scanned in order to disable the immobilizer, much like the sentry key already does in your TJ

I'm sure the pros can disable the sentry system. I have equipment that can disable the ford pats system. anybody with a factory type obdii interface device can disable the sentry system. They cost a couple thousand, but are probably in the tool box of pro thieves.
If they break the tumbler then the kill switch will present a difficulty. A paperclip won't help much considering my connections and wires are "theft wrapped". The solenoid is buried deep behind the dash and wrapped as well. I like the idea of multiple kill switches off of a key fob.

Originally Posted by Sccafire

What about something simple like a hood lock and a battery disconnect that requires a key to turn off and on.

too much effort to deal with every time i want to drive or park. I will end up with some sort of hood lock.

Originally Posted by The_Bandit

you can start most vehicles without even getting inside of them.

how so? fill me in so i can protect those wires.

Originally Posted by Deezelweazel

Don't use a club- it useless.
Thiefs don't cut the club, they cut the steering wheel. If seen it in the Netherlands.
If you build in an alarm, make sure you have small backup battery installed.

The alarm has a backup battery. I'm talking about a clutch club, not a steering wheel club.

Thanks for the tips guys! keep them coming!

[Deezelweazel]

Pierburg sells a magnetic fuel cut off. Its always interrupted only with power fuel flows. Good device to built in a secret spot.

[commodore_dude]

Since you've got sentry key, all that other stuff you said is unnecessary for preventing the theft of the vehicle. A Wrangler just will never be worth enough to make it worth the effort involved to bypass it (forklift, bunch of new parts, or Chrysler computer). If you want something to notify you that someone is breaking in, I guess the pager alarm is nice.

[jgorm]

Originally Posted by commodore_dude

Since you've got sentry key, all that other stuff you said is unnecessary for preventing the theft of the vehicle.

I bet I could jack a jeep with a sentry key pretty easily. (assuming) It might be as simple as carrying an extra sentry module for your key and plugging it in. (anybody know about that) You can gain access to that in 2 seconds while removing nothing. If not, then a ECU swap form a similar year could be done in a minute or 2. Or the tech guy could borrow the dealer tool at night and just deactivate it. Or a thief could have the reprogram tool (they are online and i found them, but i will not post info on it). Its not a cheap tool, but it's for sale. To me the sentry is just one more layer of protection. Remember, chances are the guy jacking jeeps has his own jeep to practice on. (or other jeeps that ****er already stole!)