Need recommendation for Sub/Amp/Speaker

[ticconi]

I have my head unit picked out http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=20663 and my 4x6's for the dash http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8560_Pioneer+TS-A4672R.html thanks to the help of people on this forum.

I am going to replace my crappy stock soundbar with some pods and need recommendation on a good 6 1/2" speaker. It's going to be powered off my H/U along with my dash speakers.

Also I am going to be making a Instatrunk and want to put my sub and amp under it. I was looking at just putting a amplified bazooka tube in there. I don't want to rattle the whole jeep just something that sounds good.

Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

[Mikelstracer]

Memphis audio is really high quality speakers. Just my opinion..

[ticconi]

Originally Posted by Mikelstracer

Memphis audio is really high quality speakers. Just my opinion..

u talkin for a sub?

[spife7980]

they make good quality stuff all around. but i think he was referring to your roll bar speakers. i have heard quite a few memphis speakers and they all sounded very nice.

a bazooka tub is a nice upgrade over stock but it wont be the same as an actual component subwoofer system. but it will add a tad o "bump in yo trunk" lots of people use them and like em. a nice all in one package type deal.

[SirGCal]

IF you're going to use those fronts, I'd stick with that model lineup for the others to keep the voice matching as close as possible. In this case it would be the Pioneer TS-A1673R speakers. Although I would go listen to them first. 3-ways tend to be pretty bright. You might be happier with the G lineup instead (I know I would; but you need to go see how you're ears prefer. Doesn't matter what anyone else alive thinks...) The matching 2-way set would be the Pioneer TS-G4642R & Pioneer TS-G1642R speakers.

But again, since you're looking at using a sub, you might stick with even better matching with a 5.25" in the rear instead of the 6.5" (the Pioneer TS-G1342R for example). Just more possibilities. Still, go listen first. You might not like the Pioneers at all. However, without an amp, and only 18W RMS of power, stick with speakers rated as low as possible, and absolutely NO more than 35W RMS.

[ticconi]

Originally Posted by SirGCal

IF you're going to use those fronts, I'd stick with that model lineup for the others to keep the voice matching as close as possible. In this case it would be the Pioneer TS-A1673R speakers. Although I would go listen to them first. 3-ways tend to be pretty bright. You might be happier with the G lineup instead (I know I would; but you need to go see how you're ears prefer. Doesn't matter what anyone else alive thinks...) The matching 2-way set would be the Pioneer TS-G4642R & Pioneer TS-G1642R speakers.

But again, since you're looking at using a sub, you might stick with even better matching with a 5.25" in the rear instead of the 6.5" (the Pioneer TS-G1342R for example). Just more possibilities. Still, go listen first. You might not like the Pioneers at all. However, without an amp, and only 18W RMS of power, stick with speakers rated as low as possible, and absolutely NO more than 35W RMS.

ok cool those 3 ways look pretty good, ill see if i can listen to them somewhere. What about a sub and amp? Im not sold on the bazooka tube idea. Nothing too crazy just maybe one ten and in a box with an inexpensive amp.

[gily25]

What kind of bass are you hoping to achieve? A little bump or bass that you can feel even with the volume low?

Do you have a budget for this sub/amp combo? Personally I love the 10" alpine type R I have. A lot of people enjoy JL subs. MB Quart and Memphis are nice for a budget install. There are so many subs you really should go out there and have a listen and hear the brands and see what you like best.

If you are going all pioneer you may want to look into a thread that was on here not too long ago where a member made a shallow trunk box. I believe the pioneer shallow sub was used in that.

Also look at just4effect.com for some install trunk design ideas.

[ticconi]

Originally Posted by gily25

What kind of bass are you hoping to achieve? A little bump or bass that you can feel even with the volume low?

Do you have a budget for this sub/amp combo? Personally I love the 10" alpine type R I have. A lot of people enjoy JL subs. MB Quart and Memphis are nice for a budget install. There are so many subs you really should go out there and have a listen and hear the brands and see what you like best.

If you are going all pioneer you may want to look into a thread that was on here not too long ago where a member made a shallow trunk box. I believe the pioneer shallow sub was used in that.

Also look at just4effect.com for some install trunk design ideas.

Im don't wanna rattle my insides I just want something that sounds decent. And I am on a budget for this so def looking for something on the cheaper end.

[ticconi]

still looking for some good suggestions

[spife7980]

well main thing that needs to be considered is your budget. that will be the sole determining factor on what gets recommended.
i say to get an infinity bass link if you are looking into upgraded low end with out braking the bank or rattle anything http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_m40_i57_infinity-amplified--loaded-subwoofer-enclosure-systems.html

look at this site http://www.sonicelectronix.com/ i haven't had a problem yet to this date ordering from there. the brands that they are not yet certified for are very affordably priced. you can get a small 10" and a small amp for ~300 or something. biggest thing is to go to a local audio shop and take a listen to what they have. find out what you like the sound of and go from there.

so a similar radio from sonic electronix plus dash kit and wiring harness $134
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11108_Alpine+CDE-9874.html#

then the speakers you listed for $49.99 (there are 2 ways for 29.99)

then some 5.25 for the roll bar for $50 (i went with 5.25s since it will match the front a little better and you say you want a sub for the low)
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13978_Pioneer+TS-A1372R.html

so thats a total of ~250 so far. now the magic number for the sub is? if the basslink thats another 175.
i personally would do a component system (not an all in one package)

so say an alpine type s 10" is $70
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9330_Alpine+SWS-1043D.html

plus an amp kicker 300.1 is $134
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6750_Kicker+ZX300.1.html

so thats 200 plus say $50 for a box (down firing is preferred and can be made for cheaper out of some mdf, screw and a saw to go behind the rear seat)
and then say $80 for an amp kit to give you some elbow room. so say 350 for a fairly sub set up

but you should go listen first and find out what you like the sound of. this is just an example

[gily25]

What is the amount of your budget?

You can get a refurbed amp from profilecaraudio.com that will power most entry and mid level subs for under $50. Then you can pick up a sub from a place like sonic or onlinecarstereo.com for $75-100. If you go with an amp from that profile site an 8 guage amp kit from wal mart for about $25 will get you wired up. Basically for under $200 you can have a nice sub system. If your budget was around $400 you will be able to get the speakers and h/u too. $400 is a reasonable budget for a nice entry/mid level soundsystem.

[ticconi]

ok first of all thanks alot for the recommendations this far guys greatly appreciated. Initially my budget was larger than my wallet so I don't want to spend too much. This is what I am going to do now.

Headunit: RMS on that Alpine is pretty low although I know that is one of the nicer brands I'm gonna get a Kenwood or Sony with a little more RMS to power the door and soundbar speakers.

Dash: Those same Pioneer 4x6 I mentioned before I have heard they are good

Soundbar: Prob go with 5.25's now if I'm gonna get a sub. I will have to find a TJ soundbar off of craigslist or ebay and hopefully I can get a deal.

Sub and amp: Thanks gily25 for that profile site real cheap amps there. And sub well here's the deal. I found one on craigslist and called the guy up. It's a 10 year old Kicker Competition CA10 8 ohms model (mind you I really have no idea what this means lol). It's in a box and he is asking $35 for it. He said it still works great and thinks it's 125 RMS he knows it 250max. I am supposed to buy it tomorrow but don't know what to do now that I was shown a site with cheaper amps. He said he is selling it because he amp took a dump. And this is my dilemna I might buy it tomorrow or I might keep checking craigslist.

Again, I don't wanna pound 2pac anymore just something to give it some thump buy the cheapest way I can go. And since it's going in a soft top jeep another reason to keep in inexpensive. What do you guys think I should do?

[ticconi]

Oh yeah my budget is $400 give or take.

[SirGCal]

The difference from 18-20W RMS (all you're going to get from conventional headunits). I would not use that tiny amount to push you away from an Alpine down to especially some of the lesser units like Kenwood. You will never notice the difference from power between the two and the Alpine has better electronics in it that will help you get the most of the sound. Plus, you could always later add on the power pack to the alpine as long as it has the black input plug (pretty much all post new units will). For source units, I really prefer to stick to Alpine, Clarion and Eclipse. They historically have the best reliability and functionality and electronics and especially lately, are priced to compete with the other general brands. That said, nothing is wrong using another brand, but Kenwood is just one I've seen way too many troubles with (enough that when I did have a shop, I intentionally stopped carrying them).

sticking with 5.25" in the rear is just fine, especially since you want to run a sub. There is no need for a larger speaker.

As for the sub, 8-ohm subs might be difficult to power simply because you're going to have to buy more power than you need. To get 100W RMS at 8-ohms from an average amp, you'll need 200W RMS @ 4-ohms amp. Something like the Profile AP400 would work. Plus another problem, that's not going to be much at all for the noisy jeep environment. You'll probably want something just a touch stronger. The head unit could likely overpower that little bit of low-end fill within the noise of the world topless, especially since you're likely thinking of putting it in the rear in it's prefab box. Again, remember, this isn't going to do much topless.

If you want to do it in pieces, I would recommend doing a quality head first and your speakers. Wait on the sub and amp and do them when money allows. In the end you'll be much happier with a well balanced sound.

[ticconi]

sirgcal yeah i told that guy i didn't want the sub a couple of hours ago, just didn't feel good about it. I don't know what to do about the sub options but atleast i know what I want door speaker/soundbar wise yay lol. And the headunit is another mystery ahhh!