How to Speaker Upgrade Tutorial: 4x6" to 5.25" (Lots of pics) - Page 9 - JeepForum.com

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post #121 of 142 Old 04-09-2014, 01:54 PM
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Pics of speaker on mount(front and back); of it connected; and of the speaker mounted in dash

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post #122 of 142 Old 04-09-2014, 02:57 PM
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Thought you bought these?

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post #123 of 142 Old 04-09-2014, 03:56 PM
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I did but the pic is wrong for some reason. They're shaped alpt more like yours than that pic. Rounded corners and 3 mounting holes for the speaker holes.
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I did but the pic is wrong for some reason. They're shaped alpt more like yours than that pic. Rounded corners and 3 mounting holes for the speaker holes.
Ok I'm confused. In the first post you said you didn't buy the NALIN adapters? But now are saying you did? Because the picture you posted does not look like NALIN adapters..

NALIN adapters if bought from him/his website don't interfere with anything been running them now for 3 years, flawless!

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Ok I'm confused. In the first post you said you didn't buy the NALIN adapters? But now are saying you did? Because the picture you posted does not look like NALIN adapters..

NALIN adapters if bought from him/his website don't interfere with anything been running them now for 3 years, flawless!

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post #126 of 142 Old 04-09-2014, 06:07 PM
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I did but the pic is wrong for some reason. They're shaped alot more like yours than that pic. Rounded corners and 3 mounting holes for the speaker holes.
I said they are shaped MORE like the nalin ones than the pic he posted. Once i switched the sides the adapters were on the rubbing went away.
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post #127 of 142 Old 04-09-2014, 08:21 PM
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Got the Polks in today. Installed without a hitch, must've been a defective speaker. Now if only i knew if buying an OEM soundbar and harness would work, audio would be done.
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Got the Polks in today. Installed without a hitch, must've been a defective speaker. Now if only i knew if buying an OEM soundbar and harness would work, audio would be done.
Why wouldn't it work? It's straight forward to add the soundbar. You can even add PODS like the newer TJ's have instead of the whole bar..

However if you do get a OEM soundbar, get ready to replace the speakers in there also as the stock ones are junk.

Need a wiring diagram for the soundbar too? I can get you the diagram if you need?
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I read that you can't add a sound bar with harness in the ones that didn't have it stock. Because there's no place to plug in the harness. As far as wiring diagrams goes, yes please. I'm liking the pod idea will 6.5 speakers fit or is there mods necessary. Will the lights come on with doors and headlight knob?
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I read that you can't add a sound bar with harness in the ones that didn't have it stock. Because there's no place to plug in the harness. As far as wiring diagrams goes, yes please. I'm liking the pod idea will 6.5 speakers fit or is there mods necessary. Will the lights come on with doors and headlight knob?
The harness for the soundbar is in the drivers footwell, look under there you should see a maze of wires.

This I found with a quick search, if you dont have the connector (C323) you can make one. Or simple just run the speakers straight to the back of your stereo..

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The bottom slot for a connector is 2 pins high, by 5 pins wide, and is where the harness for the sound bar plugs in. If your lucky, they left a blank connector there. I also bought a sound bar used so had to make my harness. I found a 2x5 connector off a friends wrecked cherokee, and sanded it to fit. Then hooked up my speaker wires, and light so that they connected with the respective pins in the terminal block.
Or go to the wrecker and find a Jeep that has the soundbar and take the bar along with the harness off it. If you run it to this main connector down in the footwell area this will give you power for your lights also. If you simple just run the speakers to the stereo, you will need additional wires to run for the power of the lights etc.. I'd simply just make a harness or find one?
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Has anyone used baffles instead of polyfill to "insulate" the 5 1/4s in the dash?
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Has anyone used baffles instead of polyfill to "insulate" the 5 1/4s in the dash?
Only reason you might not get away with using baffles is because spacing restrictions in the rear of the speaker as the air vent comes up on the passenger side if I recall.

The drivers side might have a bit more clearance..
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Only reason you might not get away with using baffles is because spacing restrictions in the rear of the speaker as the air vent comes up on the passenger side if I recall.

The drivers side might have a bit more clearance..
I actually used some of those boom mat baffles in mine, they crushed a little while pushed up against the vents, but fit fine and I think help with keeping the sounds going forward. With the tweeters mounted with nalin brackets, the front speakers clarity is amazing.

One issue was with the volume turned up, the air vents vibrated against the baffles and made terrible noises at certain frequencies, like distorting speakers from too much power.
I ended up stuffing some rubber in between the two and am very happy with the results, my 100wrms polks can now scream at a full 45w rms (hpf set to 80 hz) without the air vents making them sound like they are distorting

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I actually used some of those boom mat baffles in mine, they crushed a little while pushed up against the vents, but fit fine and I think help with keeping the sounds going forward. With the tweeters mounted with nalin brackets, the front speakers clarity is amazing.

One issue was with the volume turned up, the air vents vibrated against the baffles and made terrible noises at certain frequencies, like distorting speakers from too much power.
I ended up stuffing some rubber in between the two and am very happy with the results, my 100wrms polks can now scream at a full 45wrms without the air vents making them sound like they are distorting
Which baffles are you exactly speaking of?

I plan on swapping my nalin plates from my 97 into my 05 LJ this spring along with my polks. I used polyfill but might just stick baffles in there if it does work!?
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Which baffles are you exactly speaking of?
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They were like these, thick airtight Styrofoam that is somewhat flexible (not like a cheap Styrofoam cup that just cracks)

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-6FRlVmo...1-2-depth.html

I think mine were deeper, (I want to say 4"?) I wanted more volume for the mid component speaker... Ended up being squished a little, but once I kept it from vibrating directly on the hvac vents I've been loving the crisp mids....
Also , cut a small round hole in the back for the wires, might try to seal up that hole just to see if it makes a difference, but I've read some people leave a dime sized hole sort of like a port...

On a side note, this brings the speaker forward in the brackets almost a 1/4 inch, and I actually reverse mounted the top of the 5 1/4 bracket ( think under the metal, not over) so that the speaker leans back for more clearance behind the metal dash sub frame. coincidentally, they are now aimed towards your stomach/ ribs instead of your knees.

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