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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:43 PM   #106
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It's fine either way. Most people just hook up one pair. But as long as you're sure you got the + and - pairs right, you can use them both, just as long as you don't put one + and one - on each input. It won't change the performance in any way though either way (unless you do mix them up, which would be bad) on a single voice coil sub.

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Unread 03-29-2010, 11:52 PM   #107
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It's fine either way. Most people just hook up one pair. But as long as you're sure you got the + and - pairs right, you can use them both, just as long as you don't put one + and one - on each input. It won't change the performance in any way though either way (unless you do mix them up, which would be bad) on a single voice coil sub.
I have my factory service manual with wiring diagrams, so I should be ok. Thanks for the help.
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Unread 04-03-2010, 07:57 AM   #108
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This is a great write up. Just finished changing my sub out. I put in a kicker 6.5 and it sounds great. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this topic.
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Unread 04-03-2010, 09:52 AM   #109
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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the stock amp? I'm installing a sub console in a 97 TJ to a JVC head unit.
Thanks for the write.
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Unread 04-13-2010, 03:15 PM   #110
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1st time posing. Great write up. Followed the swap out to a "T" with a new 2010 Kicker 6.5" Comp VT 2-Ohm woofer bought off Ebay for $55, shipping included.

Only difference: The CD tray had 2 screws that were holding the enclosure in place, had to remove those.

I also only used the grey and brown wires. Put wing nuts on the red and black and stuffed them in the enclosure.

Thanks for all the help. Sounds great
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Unread 04-23-2010, 10:45 PM   #111
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Kicker 10CVT652

Nice write up..

I opted for the kicker 10CVT652 too for a few reasons..It was only $55 w/shipping from ebay Ebay 10CVT652 search, its 2 Ohm which is closer to the factory impedence, and I've been a fan of kicker since the days when I had 2x12" kicker comps in the trunk of my old Camry.

This thing won't rattle your teeth out, but it's fills in the sound nicely and adds just enough kick so you can feel the bass drums, etc.

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Overall.. I'm satisfied
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Unread 05-12-2010, 11:20 AM   #112
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I installed the Bazooka WF621.5DV last year. Much improvement over the factory sub. It does not 'hit hard' like the cars at the local high school, but is louder and more clear than the factory. It is a dual voice coil so there is nothing perplexing about the wiring either!

Factory Vs. Bazooka:



Cutting Required:


I attached the wires just as the factory sub was. Red/black up top and the others at the bottom.

Fitted box, sealed with RTV around the edge:
I just used the same sub, wow it's much better. I had already upgraded the other speakers and now it sounds like it.
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Unread 05-15-2010, 02:16 PM   #113
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This thread has been a little dormant so I thought I would bring it back!! I installed the Item:KICKER 10 CVT65-2 CAR 6.5" SUBWOOFER/SUB WOOFER CVT652 by the way there is a used one on ebay 40 bucks! KICKER 10 CVT65 2-Ohm 6.5" CompVT Subwoofer - eBay (item 300426500708 end time May-17-10 14:20:23 PDT) The install took some time but was flawless tks to the awesome write up!! The only hiccup I had was there is 2 screws in the enslosure (inside part where storage is) that I had to remove on my LJ 06!! I would have taken pics but the wifey has the camera!!?? I went with red + black -, I tried all the combos but this delivered the best sound imo!! It was nice to pull the console out and clean all the crap up, now I know what your thinkin hows the sound??? Incredible what a differnence over stock btw my stock sub seems ok if anyone wants one pm me will work something out!! Great mod and I am sorry I did not do it sooner, I want to go out and by the Chronic cd to really test the thump!!!!! By the way changed my spark plugs also and they were way out of wack gap wise some of those suckers were up around .70 gap wise suprised the LJ was still runnin tks for the write up I had a great time with this mod!!!
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Unread 05-23-2010, 12:42 AM   #114
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I just installed my new subwoofer speaker this afternoon. Everything went smoothly and I thought I would post additional pictures to compliment the ones already posted.

Here is what you see if your stock sub is blown...




There is a fabric dust cover that is supposed to be attached to the foam cone surround but that had ripped off. Also, the foam surround was torn around half the circumference. Good riddance!



Here is the stock speaker compared to a kicker 6.5 speaker.


I was under the impression that the kicker would fit without modification, but it turned out I had to remove some plastic fins from the back wall to allow the speaker to sit flat. Here is an image of all the 8 holes pre-drilled to show that they are a good distance from the edge. I shimmed the speaker into a centered position using layers of double sided foam tape before drilling the holes.


Then I connected the red/black wire and taped up the other two. I added a line of RTV around the edge and secured the new speaker in place with #8 x 1/2" pan head wood screws (not the flathead type). They seemed to provide a good bite into the plastic and fit the holes in the speaker well. You don't have to seal the old holes because they are actually blind holes into the plastic.
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Unread 05-25-2010, 04:38 PM   #115
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Finally installed the Pyramid today. The stock Sub had blown the entire way around. I took the black and red wires and attached them to the sub while taping the brown and grey off to the cluster. Great write up!!! I've never done any stereo or electrical work at all but I was able to get this in without any problem! THANKS!!!
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Unread 05-31-2010, 10:22 AM   #116
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Thanks to all contributors to this thread. Lot's of input on various install issues and methods. I bought the Pyramid 6.5" sub from Parts Express. Their prices have gone up a bit since the original post, but still around $20 delivered. Install was cake thanks to this thread. My ride is an '05 Unlimited and it had two sets of wires: red/black and brown/grey. I simply hooked the wires up the same way they were connected to the factory sub and no issues. I soldered everything for good contact and to avoid them coming loose over time. My opinion is the sound quality is as good as the stock. But I'm betting the poly material will last a lot longer than the paper cone did on the old one.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 12:30 PM   #117
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Question about amps with this swap... If you upgrade to the 2 ohm Kicker, will it have more or less "kick" than the factory sub? Also, If you added a small aftermarket 150w RMS amp how much more "kick" would the sub have and would it be worth buying the aftermarket amp instead of using the factory one?
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Unread 06-03-2010, 12:34 PM   #118
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Well, the stock amp is ~ 75W @ 1-ohm, so at 2-ohms it's only going to be ~ 37.5W. So a true 150W RMS amp @ 2-ohms (might be hard to find) is a huge power jump. However, the 'kick' is really limited to the box and the stock box... well... sucks for lack of a better word. So more power will get it louder but it won't really impact hard and clean until you reinforce the box or build a new replacement.
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Unread 06-03-2010, 12:37 PM   #119
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So is it worth the $60 to replace the sub? My sub works fine I just want a better one... and is it really worth the effort then to get a 4 ohm Kicker and matching amp or is the box so crappy that it won't matter...
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Unread 06-03-2010, 12:40 PM   #120
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If yours is working fine, no. It's not an upgrade. It's a replacement for a failed stock unit with roughly similar results. Upgrading to a new amp and new sub will help some, new box will help a lot more. Each part is a step.
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