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Unread 05-09-2009, 06:00 PM   #46
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Finally, sound outta the woofer. What finally worked was Brown to + and Balck to -. Tape up the red and gray wires and put them out of the way. Other than the pain in the butt this project was, everything sounds really good.

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Unread 05-09-2009, 06:36 PM   #47
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Glad to hear you got it figured out.
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Unread 05-21-2009, 12:03 PM   #48
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I made brackets from cutting around the stock 4x6 stock speakers and then drilling new holes. I replaced the stock speakers w/ Kicker 4x6 not 5.25 but i'm sure you can do this for the 5.25's also. I'll post a link w/ photos if your still interested.

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yeah, i think im buying some 6.5 2 ways today to put in the pods. I am looking into the 5.25's for the front, but I wanted to see if there is a way to make brackets for them out of the stock brackets in there by just cutting it and drilling new holes. if anyone has done this, let me know. I think it's going to go in this weekend. next weekend im probably going to pull that crappy stock deck out and put in a clarion or insignia. i don't know if I'll end up with any type of sub or not.
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Unread 06-03-2009, 02:35 PM   #49
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Great write up!! I went black + red - and some polyfil in the enclosure. Sounds much better than stock. Now for the rest of the speakers. If only they were as cheap here in canada as they are in the u.s.
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Unread 06-15-2009, 11:59 AM   #50
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Just did this replacement this weekend with the pyramid sub. Works great! Good write up. This speaker is just as good as the stock one the stealerhsip wants $250+ for.
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Unread 06-15-2009, 08:20 PM   #51
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i have an aftermarket sony headunit the previous owner put on. How do I know if my sub is blown or just not hooked up to the headunit he put on?
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Unread 06-16-2009, 08:25 AM   #52
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How to Replace the Factory Subwoofer

I have a Sony head unit that I ordered from Crutchfield and it came with their wiring harness. If I remember correctly, the Blue wire on the Crutchfield wiring harness (which is marked "Power Antenna") was the one that connected to the factory subwoofer wire (which is also Blue; I think) in the dash.

Just a further comment on archerace's write up. From reading this thread, it's amazing how many wiring combinations work (or don't work) when wiring the speaker to the harness in the console. Gray to + for some, Black to + for some, and Brown to + for me. I would just add that it is a good idea to place the console back in the Jeep, connect the wiring harness, lay the speaker in the front seat, and then see which comination works before final assembly.
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Unread 06-16-2009, 09:40 AM   #53
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Always a good idea to test anything before you reassemble it. Good call ehowell!
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Unread 08-03-2009, 08:27 PM   #54
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FYI - 2001, Sahara, TJ

I had to use the red and black wire as someone mentioned on here as well.

Also I found you can take 2 screws out in instead of removing the nut on the front of the console. I broke the stud on the back of the console trying to get off the nut.

The speaker sounds great for what I paid for it and a hell of alot better than the stock speaker.

I stuffed some good stiff packing foam in the enclosure and applied silicone and RTV silicone adhesive to make sure it was sealed up real good.

I used a pair of diagonal cutters to make room for the speaker. Piece of cake.
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Unread 08-04-2009, 10:00 AM   #55
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My sub was blown when I bought the Jeep. So, I have no idea whether this replacement sounds as good, or better, than the stock sub.

I'm glad to hear that it sounds as good as, if not better than the overpriced sub the stealership sells.
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Unread 08-09-2009, 05:21 PM   #56
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Has anyone looked at this Kicker?

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_...08+CVT65+2-Ohm

looks like it has the 2 ohm and is a bit more than the Pyramid but might be worth the extra cash. What was the mounting depth of the Pyramind again?

Looks like that Kicker is 3/16 deeper......from the pics it looks OK to fit.

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Unread 08-20-2009, 12:45 PM   #57
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yobeez...a bit more? A lot more, I just ordered the Pyramid from Buy.com for less than $19 including shipping. Not that that is a bad price, but I’m with the rest of the budget minded here, just want a good factory sound.

This has been a great write-up and educational as to replacing the factory speaker with a better than factory replacement. It is funny what others have experienced with wiring combo:
1. GCJoes, who tested several ways, said “I used the Gray + / Brown –
2. Another says “red and black wires”
3. And another “Finally, sound out of the woofer. What finally worked was Brown to + and Black to -. Tape up the red and gray wires and put them out of the way.”
4. Another “I went black + red - and some polyfil in the enclosure.”
5. Another “Gray to + for some, Black to + for some, and Brown to + for me.”

I guess I’ll try all until I get the correct combo before buttoning everything up.
My factory sub stopped working about 4 months after installing a new head unit. After reading all of this, I’m guessing an aftermarket head unit doesn’t work with the factory woofer and something gives. Being the “CHEAP” $250+ factory speaker.
Thanks to all who have contributed to this. When my speaker stopped working in my 2006 Rubicon Unlimited I had no idea where to start. These boards and the internet is an amazing tool!!

I’ll post what wiring works best for me when complete.
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Unread 08-21-2009, 08:45 PM   #58
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Has anyone looked at this Kicker?

Kicker 08 CVT65 2-Ohm 6.5" CompVT Car subwoofer Car Subwoofers 08CVT652 08CVT 65 subwoofer sub woofer in car auto speakers audio stereo dual pair shallow low flat mount depth inch cheap on sale power best single/dual voice-coil

looks like it has the 2 ohm and is a bit more than the Pyramid but might be worth the extra cash. What was the mounting depth of the Pyramind again?

Looks like that Kicker is 3/16 deeper......from the pics it looks OK to fit.
The Kicker would not sound as good as the Pyramid due to the lack of watt's it produces.
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Unread 08-31-2009, 06:47 AM   #59
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I’ll post what wiring works best for me when complete.
Well, I completed my subwoofer swap this weekend. The instruction here made it an easy task. All went exactly as described. I played with wiring combinations and found the red as neg and the white as pos worked best for me. I actually got sound with all the combinations, but this combo seemed to get the stronger speaker response.

I can't say the sound is any better than factory though. When it was new and working right, the factory speaker had some good thump to it that this one just doesn't seem to be getting. Could be the way I hooked it up, but I'm glad to just get some bass back in my system.
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Unread 08-31-2009, 11:08 AM   #60
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It has less thump because the wattage has changed. The factory subwoofer runs the factory amp at 1 ohm and takes the most advantage of the amp. When you switch to an aftermarket sub running the amp at 4 ohms you have decreased your power by 2/3.
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