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Unread 04-24-2008, 07:36 AM   #1
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Help with CB controls

my grandpa was cleaning out his shed and came across an old cb and he gave it to me. I already have a cb in my TJ, but I have a few buddies that don't have one so I took it. He said it has been modified somehow for better range - it belonged to a deceased relative so he didn't know much about it. I know very little about cb's and there are a few different knobs on this one that my current one doesn't have. here's a picture I found online of the unit

if someone could help explain these functions, I would appreciate it
NB/OFF switch?
PA/CB - I got this one
VOL/RF GAIN knob - is the RF GAIN for signal strength? is it an amplifier?
AM/LSB/USB knob - this is for different radio bands right? AM is the standard CB band? what are LSB/USB?
DELTA/SQU knob - SQU is squawk. what it DELTA?
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Unread 04-24-2008, 07:53 AM   #2
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LSB = Lower Side Band
USB = Upper Side Band
NB = Noise Blanker

These side bands give you a lot more options for channels instead of 40 although it's not a standard feature for CB's today. Only the higher-end models have this.

Gain is for tweaking the incoming signal. Delta is to clean up the incoming signal.

However, if it's been 'modified' for more power; it's probably no longer legal to use. 4W is the max power conventional CBs can use on the main channels. 12W on the side band channels.
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Miss Goldy Eagle is hawt! I would run my hands slowly up those white boots....

That's because I'm a CBer on the move!
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LSB = Lower Side Band
USB = Upper Side Band
NB = Noise Blanker

These side bands give you a lot more options for channels instead of 40 although it's not a standard feature for CB's today. Only the higher-end models have this.

Gain is for tweaking the incoming signal. Delta is to clean up the incoming signal.

However, if it's been 'modified' for more power; it's probably no longer legal to use. 4W is the max power conventional CBs can use on the main channels. 12W on the side band channels.
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Unread 04-24-2008, 12:25 PM   #5
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While the controls were explained, it wasn't explained actually how to set them. Set the AM/USB/LSB to AM, 99.999% of all CBs operate in the AM mode. Setting it for USB or LSB would mean you couldn't understand what is being said on most other CBs, and they couldn't understand you either.

Just turn the RF Gain control all the way up and leave it there. RF Gain is another word for a "sensitivity" control and rarely would anyone turn it down. I have RF gains on my CB and ham gear and I can't remember the last time I needed to turn it down, which is normally only done if you're trying to talk with another CB who is running too much power or you're too close to the other CB transmitter.

Turn the Squelch control to just past the point the hissing sound disappears. That keeps the radio nice and quiet until someone transmits on the channel, then it will turn the audio on so you can hear the other person talking. Turning the Squelch TOO far will make the radio insensitive to all but the strongest signals so just past the point the hissing disappears is about right. You may have to turn it up a tad more once you start your engine to suppress any engine noise the CB might pick up.

The Delta tune is used for fine frequency adjustments but only for the LSB or USB modes, it is not used at all in the AM mode. By the way, LSB and USB stands for Upper and Lower Side Bands... which are Single Side-Band modes which some radios have. A LSB or USB signal will sound like Donald Duck talking if you try to listen to it on an AM radio... totally unintelligible though, unlike Donald Duck... mostly.

NB is 'Noise Blanker' which just means it will cut a bit of the noise down that you hear. You can normally just leave that on if it works ok. Finally, the CB/PA switch takes it out of the normal CB mode and allows you to use the CB as a PA (public address) system if you connect a big external speaker to it.

In closing, that radio is old enough that it only has 23 channels. CBs went to 40 channels many years ago so if anyone in your group wants to use a channel higher than 23, you'll have to tell them not to.

Finally, modern 40 channel CB radios can be purchased brand new for under $40-50 so keep that in mind too.
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If that CB is in good conditon or has the box and papers, it worth a lot of money to collectors on eBay. You may be able to make a good profit and use that money purchase a newer 40 channel CB and an antenna system.
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That CB is probably worth more as a collectible if it is in good condition, as Tim says.
All 23 channel radios are now non-type approved by the FCC. It is either not a well known factor easily forgotten, but as of January 1st 1978, with the type acceptance of 40 channel CB's, all older 23 channel radios were considered not up to the new standards set forth by the FCC.
This unfortunate event caused, for instance, for Lafayette to go under due to their bid to stay in the 23 channel market instead and the huge amount of stock unsold after the ban.

I have a couple of those older 23 channels myself as part of my collection.
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So you cant use 23 channel ones anymore? I found 2 of them in my grandpa's shed?
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So you cant use 23 channel ones anymore? I found 2 of them in my grandpa's shed?
Read post #5 above, that was already explained.
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So you cant use 23 channel ones anymore? I found 2 of them in my grandpa's shed?
And you can't go 66 mph in a 65 mph zone. Nobody is going to check your radio for channels 24-40.
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And you can't go 66 mph in a 65 mph zone. Nobody is going to check your radio for channels 24-40.
Nope, not really.
I just happen to comply with FCC requirements since my Ham radio station is located in an extremely heinous HOA neighbourhood, so I could eventually get FCC checked.
Inthis case it was just a mention of a little known fact only.

I'd definitely go with something newer though for actual use, and keep the 23 channel if mint for collecting or sell it out to a collector.
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my grandpa was cleaning out his shed and came across an old cb and he gave it to me.

if someone could help explain these functions, I would appreciate it
KEET IT, it is the best CB ever made.

There are so many modifications that can be done to that CB.
It was one of the most sort after CB ever.

Browning was a very respected name in the manufacturer of radio equipment for the military and when they made their CBs they became the best on the market.
Tram being second but by only a very small margin.

You can get your 40 channels with a switch soldered across two points on a chip inside of the CB and the modulation Talk Powerr) will blow away any of the CB on the market today.

See if it works first, then decide what you want to do.

If you do not want a 23 channel CB or do the mods needed, how much did you say you would take for it ?

Send me your price @ "nnf000@gmail.com"
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I have a galaxy DX66v in my WJ but I'm trying to find one with SSB for under $100.
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yeah i'm running a 44v as a demo checking functions for a friend and its working real good but i'm looking for the new magnum
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