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Unread 09-04-2012, 02:59 PM   #1
glyoungca
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Electrical with a Twist - Also posted on ZJ

Hi all. I had one yellow wire broken in the driver's door harness that controls power to the RF/RR/LR door window switches. Had a temp fix, but time to make it permanent. So off to a buddies. Rummaging around on the workbench for some tools and my buddy decided to be proactive and cut all wires off the harness close to the grommet going into the door. So much for my two hour generous timeline for the repair.
So off to the auto wrecker for a wiring harness for a 1994 JGC Limited. Found one from a 1994 and 1995 great, but the wires are not all the same color. I have two purple wires coming out of the driver's kick panel and yet do not have two purple wires in the wiring harness. The JGC has an after market remote starter so I am suspecting this is where the two purple wires come into play. Anyway here is my dilemma: Everything is rewired and working EXCEPT the driver's door lock no longer locks with the lock switch. Manual is fine. All locks including the driver's unlocks then all locks except the driver's locks and yet there is power to the wire connections.
As well, the factory security system no longer activates although I suspect that since the driver's door will not lock with the switch this is linked to it. Manually locking the driver's door does not activate it. So this is all as of yesterday and now the key in the driver's door no longer deactivates the security system which it did do until yesterday. Put the battery cable back on the battery and the lights flash, but I can no longer deactivate. Hmmmm.

All fuses checked/replaced for safe measure. No difference.

Anyone have this problem? I spent 14 hours Sat, Sun and then 7.5 hours yesterday on the Jeep. This is working with the schematics from the manufacturer, but it would be nice to have an electrical trouble shooting section.

Anyone have this problem or heard of it and able to provide me with some direction?

Relays all good.

Thanks, Gerald

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Unread 09-04-2012, 08:59 PM   #2
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First you should punch your proactive friend in the dick then you should check out these tech sheets and hope they help...

1994 GC
Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts pink/black or red/white + steering column
Second 12 Volts
Starter yellow/blue (small) + steering column
Second Starter
Ignition blue/gray + steering column
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory orange/black + steering column
Second Accessory
Third Accessory
Keysense
Data Bus
Can Bus High
Can Bus Low
Can Bus Sw
Power Lock orange/purple + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Power Unlock pink/purple + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Lock Motor
Driver Unlock Motor
Passenger Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-)
Parking Lights (+) blue/red + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Hazards
Turn Signal (Left)
Turn Signal (Right)
Headlight tan/black + at switch-high and low
AutoLights
Reverse Light
Left Front Door Trigger yellow - drivers kick panel
Right Front Door Trigger
Left Rear Door Trigger
Right Rear Door Trigger
Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories (Continued)
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
Dome Supervision
Trunk/Hatch Pin tied in with doors - drivers kick panel
Rear Glass Pin
Hood Pin brown/tan - passenger kick, blue plug
Trunk/Hatch Release
Trunk Release Motor
Fuel Door Release
Power Sliding Door (Left)
Power Sliding Door (Right)
Factory Alarm Arm pink/orange + passenger kick, red plug
Factory Alarm Disarm purple/yellow - driver kick, black plug
Disarm No Unlock
Trunk Alarm Shunt
Tachometer gray/blue ac PCM
Wait to Start
Neutral Safety
Clutch Pedal
Fuel Pump
Rear Defroster
Mirror Defroster
Left Front Heated Seat
Right Front Heated Seat
Speed Sense
Brake Wire white/tan + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger gray/orange - steering column
Wipers brown/white + steering column
Left Front Window (Up/Down) white - lt. blue A drivers window switch
Right Front Window (Up/Down) brown/white - purple/white A drivers switch or kick panel
Left Rear Window (Up/Down) blue/white - red/black A drivers switch or kick panel
Right Rear Window (Up/Down) gray/black - green/white A drivers switch or kick panel
Sun Roof (Open/Close)
Sun Roof (Limit/Close)
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3

1995 GC

Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts pink/blk or red/wht + steering column
Second 12 Volts
Starter yellow/blue (small) + steering column
Second Starter
Ignition blue/gray + steering column
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory orange/black + steering column
Second Accessory
Third Accessory
Keysense
Data Bus
Can Bus High
Can Bus Low
Can Bus Sw
Power Lock orange/purple + blk conn. drivers kick
Power Unlock pink/purple + or red conn. pass kick
Lock Motor
Driver Unlock Motor
Passenger Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-)
Parking Lights (+) blue/red left of st. column
Hazards
Turn Signal (Left)
Turn Signal (Right)
Headlight tan/black + at switch-high and low
AutoLights
Reverse Light
Left Front Door Trigger yellow - drivers kick panel
Not underdash light
Right Front Door Trigger
Left Rear Door Trigger
Right Rear Door Trigger
Dome Supervision
Trunk/Hatch Pin tied in with doors - drivers kick panel
Rear Glass Pin
Hood Pin brown/tan - pass. kick blue plug
Trunk/Hatch Release
Trunk Release Motor
Fuel Door Release
Power Sliding Door (Left)
Power Sliding Door (Right)
Factory Alarm Arm pink/orange + pass. kick red plug
Factory Alarm Disarm purple/yellow - driver kick black plug
Disarm No Unlock
Trunk Alarm Shunt
Tachometer gray/blue AC pcm
High on passenger side firewall under hood.
Wait to Start
Neutral Safety
Clutch Pedal
Fuel Pump
Rear Defroster
Mirror Defroster
Left Front Heated Seat
Right Front Heated Seat
Speed Sense
Brake Wire white + left of brake pedal
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger gray/orange - steering column
Wipers brown/white + steering column
Left Front Window (Up/Down) white - lt. blue A drivers window switch
Right Front Window (Up/Down) brn/wht - pur/wht A drivers switch or kick panel
Left Rear Window (Up/Down) blu/wht - red/blk A drivers switch or kick panel
Right Rear Window (Up/Down) gry/blk - grn/wht A drivers switch or kick panel
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Unread 09-04-2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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First you should punch your proactive friend in the dick then you should check out these tech sheets and hope they help...

1994 GC
Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts pink/black or red/white + steering column
Second 12 Volts
Starter yellow/blue (small) + steering column
Second Starter
Ignition blue/gray + steering column
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory orange/black + steering column
Second Accessory
Third Accessory
Keysense
Data Bus
Can Bus High
Can Bus Low
Can Bus Sw
Power Lock orange/purple + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Power Unlock pink/purple + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Lock Motor
Driver Unlock Motor
Passenger Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-)
Parking Lights (+) blue/red + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Hazards
Turn Signal (Left)
Turn Signal (Right)
Headlight tan/black + at switch-high and low
AutoLights
Reverse Light
Left Front Door Trigger yellow - drivers kick panel
Right Front Door Trigger
Left Rear Door Trigger
Right Rear Door Trigger
Remote Start, Security, Keyless Entry, Accessories (Continued)
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
Dome Supervision
Trunk/Hatch Pin tied in with doors - drivers kick panel
Rear Glass Pin
Hood Pin brown/tan - passenger kick, blue plug
Trunk/Hatch Release
Trunk Release Motor
Fuel Door Release
Power Sliding Door (Left)
Power Sliding Door (Right)
Factory Alarm Arm pink/orange + passenger kick, red plug
Factory Alarm Disarm purple/yellow - driver kick, black plug
Disarm No Unlock
Trunk Alarm Shunt
Tachometer gray/blue ac PCM
Wait to Start
Neutral Safety
Clutch Pedal
Fuel Pump
Rear Defroster
Mirror Defroster
Left Front Heated Seat
Right Front Heated Seat
Speed Sense
Brake Wire white/tan + black plug on firewall, left of brake pedal
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger gray/orange - steering column
Wipers brown/white + steering column
Left Front Window (Up/Down) white - lt. blue A drivers window switch
Right Front Window (Up/Down) brown/white - purple/white A drivers switch or kick panel
Left Rear Window (Up/Down) blue/white - red/black A drivers switch or kick panel
Right Rear Window (Up/Down) gray/black - green/white A drivers switch or kick panel
Sun Roof (Open/Close)
Sun Roof (Limit/Close)
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3

1995 GC

Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts pink/blk or red/wht + steering column
Second 12 Volts
Starter yellow/blue (small) + steering column
Second Starter
Ignition blue/gray + steering column
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory orange/black + steering column
Second Accessory
Third Accessory
Keysense
Data Bus
Can Bus High
Can Bus Low
Can Bus Sw
Power Lock orange/purple + blk conn. drivers kick
Power Unlock pink/purple + or red conn. pass kick
Lock Motor
Driver Unlock Motor
Passenger Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-)
Parking Lights (+) blue/red left of st. column
Hazards
Turn Signal (Left)
Turn Signal (Right)
Headlight tan/black + at switch-high and low
AutoLights
Reverse Light
Left Front Door Trigger yellow - drivers kick panel
Not underdash light
Right Front Door Trigger
Left Rear Door Trigger
Right Rear Door Trigger
Dome Supervision
Trunk/Hatch Pin tied in with doors - drivers kick panel
Rear Glass Pin
Hood Pin brown/tan - pass. kick blue plug
Trunk/Hatch Release
Trunk Release Motor
Fuel Door Release
Power Sliding Door (Left)
Power Sliding Door (Right)
Factory Alarm Arm pink/orange + pass. kick red plug
Factory Alarm Disarm purple/yellow - driver kick black plug
Disarm No Unlock
Trunk Alarm Shunt
Tachometer gray/blue AC pcm
High on passenger side firewall under hood.
Wait to Start
Neutral Safety
Clutch Pedal
Fuel Pump
Rear Defroster
Mirror Defroster
Left Front Heated Seat
Right Front Heated Seat
Speed Sense
Brake Wire white + left of brake pedal
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger gray/orange - steering column
Wipers brown/white + steering column
Left Front Window (Up/Down) white - lt. blue A drivers window switch
Right Front Window (Up/Down) brn/wht - pur/wht A drivers switch or kick panel
Left Rear Window (Up/Down) blu/wht - red/blk A drivers switch or kick panel
Right Rear Window (Up/Down) gry/blk - grn/wht A drivers switch or kick panel
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Unread 09-05-2012, 12:09 PM   #4
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LOL - That is exactly what I did. In all the years we have been friends I have sometimes threatened to do just that. When he told me it was done and I walked over to the Jeep to look his exact words were: "What do you think of that?". It was reflex. I smacked him so hard in the crotch and when he bent over groaning my words back were "What do you think of that?" I can't stop laughing at the moment as I just got the visual back. His brother was in the garage crying from laughing so hard. My friend went into the house whining to his wife that I had smacked him in the dick. God I'm crying from laughing now. It feels good. I am generally a passive person, but I snapped on the weekend. His wife's response? For all the BS you have put him through over the years I'm surprised he didn't smack you sooner. Ow wow I had to stop and dry my eyes.

Anyway thank you ever so much for this information. Greatly appreciated, I will be working on the Jeep this coming weekend and will let you know the end results. Gerald
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Unread 09-05-2012, 08:50 PM   #5
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Oh my god that is awesome... I am dying laughing right now I really didn't think you would get my humor but threw it out there anyways. Definitively let me know what happens and please let your your friend know that a random person online, not knowing how you reacted to the situation, told you to punch him in the dick for doing what he did. There should be a sticky on this post for being so awesome...
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Unread 09-11-2012, 04:04 PM   #6
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Well the Jeep is 98 percent fixed. There were 11 wires that were of a different color under the dash as I finally pulled the entire harness from under the dash out the kick panel out of the car. Rewired everything with the correct factory colored wiring from the other harnesses and finally. I made one screw up. I wired the passenger door to be the door that deactivates the factory alarm on unlock. Geeezzzzzz. Anyway I didn't catch this until I got home and then had to go back into the vehicle. I was testing with my remote starter fob as this is all tied in and it work. I also had the driver's door off as I had to replace the bushings. I will fix the wiring mistake in the near future. I changed the oil and filter and finally the piston slap is muffled. I switched to a NAPA Gold filter (WIX) and the Jeep loves it. I tried Mobil 1, Fram's lines, Motomaster etc. The Jeep sounded like a friggin diesel. I also switched it to Pennzoil Ultimate 5w30. Not that I am a Pennzoil fan, but I had to put this brand into my Durango which has the HEMI, while in Washington six weeks ago. Jiffy Lube. It's all they sell and I didn't know my way around to find alternate solutions. I was surprised that the Durango is not "using" the oil. Years ago it didn't matter what vehicle I put Pennzoil in my vehicles ate it. I finally switched until now. Pennzoil has changed something. Jeep seems quite happy with the combo. I also took apart the rear wiper motor and unseized it. It stopped the week before the wiring episode so was on my list. I can hear the click when I move the dash switch, but still nothing. Same from one from the auto wrecker. I will order a new motor. Tightened up the exhaust where the pipe joins the exhaust manifold. I had replaced the exhaust manifold this spring and one my tools broke during this last stage so on the list. Quieter now. Changed the front rotors, calipers and pads. Bloody garage changed the front pads 7 weeks ago and I drove home and had burning brakes in 2.5 blocks. Driver's caliper started sticking immediately after the put the pads on. Not their fault, but you would think they would have noticed so I don't think they test drove it. So now I am back to doing the work myself so I know what is happening. The left front rotor was so grooved on the inside and there is no meat left on the inside. Not sure why the garage so everything was fine. Anyway I will take the rotor to the garage so they can see it. Not sure what I will get out of it. I have noticed though that the brake pressure doesn't seem "right". It was not as firm after having the garage do all the previous work which included rebuilding the e-brake, new rear calipers, rotors and pads. I never could find the time to do the work so decided to take it in. Well I bled the front brakes and have noticed no diff. So driving there is not as much brake pressure as before. If I slightly lift the pedal then push down there is a firm feel. Driving along and go to brake and the brake pedal is not as firm. Lift the pedal a bit and push back down and there's the pressure. Well I will bleed the back brakes when I fix my one wire mistake. Thanks for everything.
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