Send Message Advertisers Vendors Announcements
Advertise Here
Jeep Forum Classifieds JeepSpace Reviews Gallery Blogs Clubs Groups Videos Wiki Links Events Articles
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Blogs Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Wiki Jeep Links Jeep Events Jeep Articles


Wild Boar Products Cargo Rack or Front Bumper Giveaway
Go Back   JeepForum.com > General Technical Discussions > Electrical, Audio, & 2-Way Radio
Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Search Members


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old03-22-2009, 09:09 PM #1
cbman
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 12
Send a message via AIM to cbman
QuestionCB Purchasing Advice

I'm looking for a good CB radio & Antenna setup for a Jeep Wrangler. Trying to keep under the $150 range, but I need it to transmit/ receive pretty far away (about 6-10 Miles).
__________________
http://www.twospoke.com
"Tech Jeepers" member #2
cbman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-22-2009, 09:24 PM #2
mylt1
Registered User
 
mylt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 5,171
6-10 miles isnt gonna happen with a cb. best bet is get your ham license and a good VHF radio and get the repeater feq's.
mylt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 12:01 AM #3
JeepinInFl
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Okeechobee, Fl
Posts: 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by mylt1 View Post
6-10 miles isnt gonna happen with a cb. best bet is get your ham license and a good VHF radio and get the repeater feq's.
????? I can easily do 12 miles with a unmodified cobra 29..
JeepinInFl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 08:23 AM #4
mylt1
Registered User
 
mylt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 5,171
dont take this the wrong way, but i doubt that. CB is usually good up to about 5 with perfect conditions. base radios with taller antennas can do 8 or so.
mylt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 10:21 AM #5
ringguy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ringguy
Posts: 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by mylt1 View Post
dont take this the wrong way, but i doubt that. CB is usually good up to about 5 with perfect conditions. base radios with taller antennas can do 8 or so.
CB radios can EASILY go that far. EASILY. Sounds like you don't have your standing wave ratio correct or something. I really like the one where you say base stations can do about 8 miles, lol. I call this BMS which stands for Benign Misinformation syndrome.

The most important part of a CB radio is the antenna, placement of the antenna and the tuning of it.

That said, I like the Uniden radios with weather ch.
ringguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 10:55 AM #6
JeepinInFl
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Okeechobee, Fl
Posts: 124
LOL Mylt1, I talk skip on my base station from SE Florida all over the US with a barefoot Uniden Grant XL. Like Ringguy stated your misinformed. Do some reading and learn.
JeepinInFl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 11:02 AM #7
SirGCal
Moderator
 
SirGCal's Avatar
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 9,543
Send a message via Yahoo to SirGCal
Depending on atmosphere, location, etc. a properly setup mobile CB should be capable of ~ 10 miles in flat terrain. Setup for off-road configuration without any impeding antennas or any dangerous whips or what not, still a good 4-8 should be achievable. Add a lot of terrain and this will drop drastically. This is the big factor.

As for equipment, a good antenna is the key. CBs for most purposes are all going to be about the same due to FCC limits. A low priced Cobra, Uniden, Midland, or Galaxy are the most common that come to mind. A good Wilson or Firestick tunable antenna, good coax, and a proper SWR setup is the key to good communication.
__________________
Sir G. Cal - 2k Sahara TJ

Living and loving on borrowed time. Life with Multiple Sclerosis. My MS/Life blog, Audio and Electronic write-ups, project how-tos, pictures, stories, and more.

URL: http://www.SirGCal.com/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirGCal
Try some punctuation and capitalization. It makes it a lot easier to take people seriously. The laziness of people that can't hold shift "cause it's just the internet man..." just shows the age and mentality of individuals and unfortunately, credibility goes out the window right along with that. It really makes it more difficult for people to take you seriously when you're doing things a stubborn pre-teen today does. Use the shift key (and spell checker). It's your friend.
SirGCal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 11:10 AM #8
mylt1
Registered User
 
mylt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 5,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepinInFl View Post
LOL Mylt1, I talk skip on my base station from SE Florida all over the US with a barefoot Uniden Grant XL. Like Ringguy stated your misinformed. Do some reading and learn.
skip is not normal usage. so dont confuse that with range. as i stated before, 5 miles with a mobile. unless your in the desert and sitting on a plateau transmitting across a valley. any type of structure or even trees will degrade your signal.
mylt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 11:16 AM #9
mylt1
Registered User
 
mylt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 5,171
Hmmmm, direct from firestick.

Quote:
CB operators can expect a fairly consistent operational range of three to five miles in an area of limited obstructions


of course it does go on about atmospheric conditions also effecting range but again they state that that is not reliable. so WHO is misinformed? me and firestick or you guys?

Last edited by mylt1 : 03-24-2009 at 11:39 AM.
mylt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 11:19 AM #10
mylt1
Registered User
 
mylt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 5,171
from wilson
Quote:
Generally speaking, you should expect a range of 3-5 miles
mylt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 11:31 AM #11
SirGCal
Moderator
 
SirGCal's Avatar
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 9,543
Send a message via Yahoo to SirGCal
Enough guys.. keep this on topic. It doesn't matter how far we can go or what they say they can do, the atmosphere and topography have too much to play to say 'you can do X' everywhere. If you need long distance communication, you should go to the HAM type talkers. Otherwise, a CB can get you from anywhere between 3-12 miles but that's entirely dependent on the environment and setup. Even with the best setup, expecting 10+ miles everywhere, every time, is just unrealistic due to changing elements.

Now please, no more bickering over stupid distance 'my cb is bigger than yours' stuff. Keep this on topic.

To get the most out of CB, use a good antenna and set it up properly.
__________________
Sir G. Cal - 2k Sahara TJ

Living and loving on borrowed time. Life with Multiple Sclerosis. My MS/Life blog, Audio and Electronic write-ups, project how-tos, pictures, stories, and more.

URL: http://www.SirGCal.com/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirGCal
Try some punctuation and capitalization. It makes it a lot easier to take people seriously. The laziness of people that can't hold shift "cause it's just the internet man..." just shows the age and mentality of individuals and unfortunately, credibility goes out the window right along with that. It really makes it more difficult for people to take you seriously when you're doing things a stubborn pre-teen today does. Use the shift key (and spell checker). It's your friend.
SirGCal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 12:24 PM #12
Jerry Bransford
Do it right or not at all
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Escondido, California
Posts: 44,523
I've never measured the mileage between myself and other Jeeps on the road when talking via CB but I know when I was in college and a buddy and I had stock unmodified CBs with rooftop antennas, we could easily talk the 12-14 miles between our houses without problem. I wouldn't be able to talk that far on the trail due to the terrain but....
__________________
See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Getting Savvy...
Jerry Bransford is online now   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 02:05 PM #13
JeepinInFl
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Okeechobee, Fl
Posts: 124
Roger that SirG. I forgot to mention that I live in south Florida and it's pretty flat here. Cbman like others stated get your antenna grounded good, your swr as close to 1:1 as you can and get to talking.
JeepinInFl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 05:30 PM #14
strawdog
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In the West
Posts: 18
I actually prefer 2 meters so I can use repeaters and phone patches.

Not a lot of people actually use ham radios so CB is along also.

Lots of good info in this thread about half way down page two (many links)

making own cb antenna mount

Straw
strawdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old03-24-2009, 06:48 PM #15
garthbrown
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 281
Remember that there's no set distance possible with any signal - be it CB, any of the Ham frequencies, commercial rigs, etc.

There are so may variables involved that there are libraries of books on the topic.

For a basic CB, assuming your rig is setup properly and your antenna and feed line are set and tuned properly, you'll generally see your distance limiting factors as your radio line of sight.

A radio line of sight isn't quite the same as a human line of sight - there's impact from obstructions outside what we humans would consider our line of sight.

Things like hills, trees, buildings - they all attenuate (diminish) the signal. The more of them in the way of your radio line of sight, the more attenuation occurs and the nearer the other party must be to hear your signal.

Even with powerful radios - sometimes very short distances are impossible. In just the last month I've been unable to communicate with 60 watts on a well tuned VHF rig over a distance as short as a mile. It just happened to be a mile around the corner of what most people would call a mountain (small peak here in the NW).

On the other hand, with good radio line of sight, I'm able to do many miles at much lower power on VHF, CB, UHF - whatever.

Even things like rain, fog and snow can have an impact on propagation. At lower frequencies, so can the composition of the earth between you and the recipient.

At the end of the day, with a CB and a well tuned antenna - you'll probably be able to talk to someone if you can see them. If not, then it's into the "maybe" category. Anything more specific than that without a great deal of detail is pure supposition.
__________________
2003 TJ Wrangler
1981 CJ-7
1959 Willys Wagon L6-226
1955 Willys Wagon SBC
garthbrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
Purchasing headlight relay(s), suggestions? technician Electrical, Audio, & 2-Way Radio 20 03-10-2009 09:47 AM
purchasing vht nightshade luckypenguin Street Jeep Forum 11 12-07-2008 06:43 PM
Purchasing from Grainger ironbelle General Jeep & Off-Road Equipment 10 10-08-2005 12:42 AM
Tire On-line Purchasing (Web-Sites?) Stray Cat Tires & Wheels 3 05-05-2003 10:32 PM
purchasing tires ezraeb4 Tires & Wheels 7 08-05-2002 03:58 PM





The time now is 09:45 AM.

Jeep®, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation.

JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.