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Old 03-07-2008, 07:57 PM   #16
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What's the best 10" sub for that setup, by the way. I forgot to ask you SirGCal when we emailed each other.


I want to run dual 10"s with a HELL of a punch. Amp as well.
Hmmm.........maybe you could be the first to run a ported in seat setup. That would be pretty freaking sweet.

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Old 03-07-2008, 08:00 PM   #17
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also, how much MDF did you use? im wondering how many sheets i should buy
One sheet should be plenty. I'll have plenty left over after I build my box. And it's pretty complicated and requires quite a few pieces. After many 'learn as you go' screw ups, I still have over a quarter of a sheet left. Luckily MDF is very cheap. Wrangler seats aren't that big either.
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:48 PM   #18
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You can build a box with a half sheet if you're careful. 5/8" MDF.

There isn't enough internal volume for a pair of 10's.. but if SPL is all you're after then you could do it. You could also raise the seat more and have the box stick further out of the bottom of the seat to get more depth and volume.
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:50 PM   #19
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Ohh, and I had to add a 1/4" spacer to the face for the pioneer 10". You could simply also make the box 1/4" deeper. This would be no problem for the seat. Also for best results, even that setup you'd need about a 1" seat raise. Simple though for your year. Just get spacers (or good grade 8 washers) and some grade 8 replacement bolts. They are metric bolts though in your year so you may have to go to a bolt specialty place. Most big towns have a few. The new bolts will likely just have normal heads instead of the star heads but that's no biggie.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:24 AM   #20
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thanks guys

what are the benefits of a box being ported? would a port allow 2 10's to have better SQ? I dont consider myself as an "audiophile" and as you know, me being perfectly happy and enjoying my Monster Cables further removes me from that title apparently. But i like good sound, and im not looking to rattle peoples windows, i just want strong, clear bass that is tight and accurate
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A ported box has more volume potential (SPL) than a sealed box, but it's not as accurate (SQ). Since you wanted major boom, it might be what you're after. However, a proper ported box is most often larger than it's sealed counterpart for the same sub and not all subs work well in ported enclosures.
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um? i dont want major boom... i want SQ over loudness. shaking peoples windows isnt me. read my last post over
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:16 PM   #23
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Spyder6 if you want SQ more than SPL go sealed IMO... Will give you tighter more responsive bass in my experience. I love sealed. Dont think I would ever go ported...
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SirG was probably responding to Mcnasty up top. Sealed will provide better sound quality, a smaller box and are generally easier boxes to build since there is no port to mess with. If SQ is your thing, don't even bother with ports.
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where would be a good spot to put an amp if one has a 06 TJ that dosnt have the space under the drivers seat for the amp? could the amp be bolted to the underside of the rear seat? or too many vibes?
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:32 PM   #26
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where would be a good spot to put an amp if one has a 06 TJ that dosnt have the space under the drivers seat for the amp? could the amp be bolted to the underside of the rear seat? or too many vibes?
Yup, under the rear seat is popular, but not very secure. Have you thought about closing off the trunk and perhaps mounting them there? Some people even manage to cram an amp where the factory sub goes. That sounds like a pain though, and it isn't guaranteed to fit.
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i thought about closing off the trunk, but the goal of having the sub in the seat for me was retaining the area in the rear... i commonly take my dog with me when i go out and having the access from the rear blocked would be really difficult for him, not to mention thats a good foot or so of extra space for him

i tried putting my amp in my center console but the double sided tape that is apparently rated for 8 pounds per inch wouldnt hold a 3 pound amp and i dont have any metal to make a bracket out of. it fit though
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Go to the hardware store... Look in the gate latches area. There are all inds of small angle iron pieces there.. You should be able to find something that you can make work. Otherwise mount it on the floor behind the rear seat. Make a small shelf above it and you only lose 2-3 inches of height back there. Paint it or cover in carpet to match the interior and nobodys the wiser
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i thought about closing off the trunk, but the goal of having the sub in the seat for me was retaining the area in the rear... i commonly take my dog with me when i go out and having the access from the rear blocked would be really difficult for him, not to mention thats a good foot or so of extra space for him

i tried putting my amp in my center console but the double sided tape that is apparently rated for 8 pounds per inch wouldnt hold a 3 pound amp and i dont have any metal to make a bracket out of. it fit though
The amps were the only thing that kept me from running the inseat setup. Under the front seats or in the trunk are the best places. If you run them under the rear seat, bolt them down and cover them in steel or something like that to prevent theft. Now alpine is coming out with an amp that attaches to the headunit so you can amp speakers without an external unit. Still doesn't solve where you mount the sub amp.

I need a shallow mount amp.

And for some reason, I really don't want to change out seat brackets. Hopefully I never get in an accident, but if I do, I don't want to be killed or beat to death by a air bag because my seat isn't where it's supposed to be. Safety reasons are the only thing that keeps me from doing that.
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Hmmm.........maybe you could be the first to run a ported in seat setup. That would be pretty freaking sweet.
That would be pretty flippin' sweet. I would just need the Blueprints, and I'll get started right away (Snow's melting, so I'm in Fabrication mode)
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