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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:22 PM   #1
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2003 Jeep Wrangler carputer install....

***Edit***
Project SOLD
In short, this thread is about how i jammed a home built computer in my jeep...

the project has since changed. Go here to see what has been done if you are interested.:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f20/s...ngler-1300391/

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Well, I sold my 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT (with all the computer gear in it!) and I bought a 2003 Jeep Wrangler. I miss my computer gear so much that I decided to add another set up very similar to what i had in my Eclipse.

I will be using Centrafuse as my main front end along with I-guidance, Capture, Scribble, and a few other plugins for centrafuse. Other software include BootSkin to change windows boot screen. (pics of that coming later)

Items on order:
  • Everything is here...

Items on hand:
  • One 120mm Fan Grill. (anyone have one?)
  • 2003 Jeep Wrangler Sport
  • OBD2 diag tool (serial port interface OBDPros)
  • Motherboard: MB ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 945GC 775 RT
  • CPU Intel PDC E5200 2.5G 2M R WOLFDALE ((WaaauuUUUU!!!!))) /end howling
  • MEM 1Gx2|KST DII667 KVR667D2K2/2GR
  • 15ft UltraThin VGA HD15 CC388M1-15 Male to Male Triple Shielded Cable
  • One 15ft USB 2.0 A/A 38062-15 Extension Cable
  • Two 10ft USB 2.0 A/A Extension Cable
  • Wifi card (D-Link DWL-G510 revision A1)
  • Motorized touch screen MTSVO-SC K301 (same as my mitsu)
  • Metra 70-6502 Chrysler 2002-2007 Radio Wire Harness
  • METRA INSTALL KIT 99-6505 CHRYSLER/DODGE/JEEP 98-2005
  • 2.5" 100gb 7200RPM notebook hard drive. HITACHI TRAVELSTAR 7K200
  • ATA Hard Drive SATA Power Adapter Cable. (powers 2 sata drives off 1 molex)
  • Motherboard mounts
  • M4-ATX, 250w output, 6v to 30v wide input Intelligent Automotive DC-DC
  • GlobalSat BU-353 USB GPS Receiver, BU353
  • Case (Some $20.00 security box from staples.)
  • External Wifi antenna
  • Kenwood KDC-X492
  • Power barrier strips
  • Butane solder iron (awesome!)
  • Dash cam (some $10.00 cheap one off ebay... if that fails i will try logitech but it cant be worst than Siig i was using.)
  • Brando Wireless Illuminated Super Tiny Keyboard (coming from hongkong.)
  • Logisys 120mm Blue Computer Case Fan 4 LED 120 mm
  • Logisys 120mm red Computer Case Fan 4 LED 120 mm
  • Damn usb wifi card... took for ever to ship

The 100GB hard drive will be split in two partitions 15os/85gb storage. I'm still thinking If i should add another drive for capture dump.

The jeep it self...


Here's the dash i'm working with... Its a 1.5 din. Which means i cant fit my radio and touch screen together. Im going to have to either go headless, relocate the headunit, or fabricate.


Glove compartment...Not sure what im going to do there yet...


Glovecompartment door removed...


Frotn bezel removed...



Measuring old equipment...



Radio removed...




more coming soon...

I started the original thread at mp3car forums, but i feel i should share it here as well since its a wrangler ^_^ I hope no one minds.

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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:23 PM   #2
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2003 Jeep wrangler carputer install... (lots of pics)

And here I have my first snag...



It appears as if that bracket that holds the old radio will be getting in the way of the touch screen. It looks like it can safely be cut without any serious side effects. But first im going to check if it just unbolts somewhere... Its only 6" clearance at the farthest to the bracket and I need 7" 1/2. If all else fails, I'll be breaking out the dremel for that piece.

..... thats all for now. i still have to figure out where i want the actual carputer...

***EdIT: That bracket thats in the way can be unbolted through the top of the dash under the windshield.

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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:23 PM   #3
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Today I went out in search for a Cash/Security box. I found one at staples. Its quite a tight fit, but its going to be perfect once all the cuts and vents are done.







Something will need done about the IDE connector. I dont plan on using it unless im forced to.... If i can boot from usb with this board, most likely that IDE connector will be un-soldered or carefully cut off. Or... I might just cut the case some more and put a cover plate over the ide channel fromn the out side... kinda like a service port.

All back ports will be accesible from the outside of the case using the standard back plate.

Anyway, enough about the case... For now.
Next up bench testing received goods.
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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:24 PM   #4
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And here we have bench testing in progress....

CPU is an Intel core 2 duo e5200 Wolfdale (((WaauuUUU!!))) /ends howl) clocked at 2.53GHz



Heat sink mounted. Its quite nice and low profile. Man I HATE intel heatsink/fans though! This one was relatively easy to install but it scares me how it pulls on the board to the point it warps it a little. :suspicious: And those push clips! I dont really like it. I might replace the push clips for nylon bolt/nuts later.



Small ram... Its been a while since i last bought ram chips. They keep making them smaller and smaller. Nice.



Here you can actually see how the board is warped a little. :suspicious: I suspect board failure later... but for now, lets see how it holds up. The assembly is nice a low at about 2.75 inches with standoffs (not shown) That leaves .25 room to to the lid. from the top of the heat sink once its mounted in the case.


Hooking up the M4-ATX...


ugh!!!! what a mess...


Screen powers on ok...


And so does the mobo and what not...



So, in short:
PSU works
CPU works
Board works
Ram works
Screen works
hard drive is spinning...

I haven't done anything beyond this point yet, Its late. Tomorrow's another day. (and some more gear arriving. Head unit etc...) eace:

more pics and details will be posted later... Just waiting for my FTP issues to be sorted. GRRR

(edit - i lost web host account gonna have to use photobucket. )
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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:49 PM   #5
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And here we have some case cutting action...


Almost done... Still needs the fan put in...
Motherboard riser mounts were installed to keep the contacts from shorting out in the case (not pictured)


the power supply is a M4-ATX 240 watt Intelligent PSU which will (should) shut down all systems if the battery voltage drops below 10v to prevent a no crank situation. Also has customizable shutdown routines via usb interface.

And here's the K301 touch screen installed in the dash.






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nice work man. i cant wait to see this finished.
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Unread 03-08-2009, 08:26 PM   #7
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any ideas on theft prevention?
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any ideas on theft prevention?
Insurance, Crime stopper alarm with proximity sensor and pager, Crowbar, Nosy neighbors...
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Unread 03-08-2009, 08:34 PM   #9
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a few more pics...

Here's the case with the fan installed. Its a 120mm fan. I need a guard for it... (Ship me a nice grill and i will buy you a beer through paypal.)


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Looks good so far. I am thinking of doing something similar in my ZJ but worry about how windows will handle the abrupt shut downs with power loss. Are you shutting windows down every time you stop or how are you handling that? I thought about using Linux but would have problems with my GPS software.
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and here's where things start to get a little complicated for me... The center console.

My subwoofer is probably dead. When i got the jeep, it would not work. I have music, but no subwoofer. fuses checked. All ok. Meh.,.. what ever.

So I decided to pull out the subwoofer and relocate a new headunit in its place since i cant fit it under the screen...

Center console removed...


Idea for stereo location...


Old cover of Satelite receiver to be bastardized


And here we are after some cutting... I installed the cover from underneath bolted on.


Some more cutting and bending...


Radio bracket merged with bastardized cover.



fits ok... holds ok...



Some spray panting.


And done...
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Looks good so far. I am thinking of doing something similar in my ZJ but worry about how windows will handle the abrupt shut downs with power loss. Are you shutting windows down every time you stop or how are you handling that? I thought about using Linux but would have problems with my GPS software.
The shutdown routine is being handled by the M4-ATX PSU. After sensing the ignition/ACC off, it will start shutdown after 60 seconds. the PSU automaticly sends the shutdown pulse.

Same thing happens for start up. If it detects voltage on the ACC/Ign, then it will start bootup process. It survives cranking too.

The carputer never goes through a hard shutdown, unless its hanging during shutdown, and the voltage drops below 10V. In that case the M4-ATX kills power to the computer.
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Looks like a killer setup. I eventually might wanna do something like that to the new Jeep when I get it
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GRRRRRR Radio was defective. the ONE thing i did NOT test. GRRRR!!!!!!
Project is at a stop until i get that dispute resolved. Damnit!

Man what a downer...
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Unread 03-11-2009, 02:56 PM   #15
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GRRRRRR Radio was defective. the ONE thing i did NOT test. GRRRR!!!!!!
Project is at a stop until i get that dispute resolved. Damnit!

Man what a downer...
omg.. im an idiot... Bad +12v switched ACC choice.

Anyway, here we are with an update...

Some wiring...


finding a better switched +12V... Looks like some beast just ripped everything out....



And here it is!!!! Screen and radio installed...

systems off...


systems on...


A few notes:
  • The head unit HATES playing CD's at that 90 degree angle on rough roads. It will play them, but vibrations will make it skip. Thats fine with me since i dont use CD. Everything is Iphone or Computer...
  • Trimming the honeycomb/triangles from under the arm-rest cover will be needed to fit the line-in comfortably. (unless the radio i have can be fed line in through a rear input. If so then i wont need the front inputs.
  • Volume control is awkward. it's easier with left hand. this is not a problem as the main volume adjustments will be done via computer and automatically as speed increases or decreases (user define thresholds)
  • The radio is a Sony CDX-GT430ip/ipw



hmmm.... Thats all for now... Next will be installing the actual computer and software.
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