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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:00 PM   #16
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You can get zj's all day long for under 2k here, xj's are all 3k plus.

I think the big reason is that ZJ's are more expensive to lift. For an xj, you only need one set of long arms. Zj you need, front and rear long arms and 2 adjustable track bars. Also the nature of link suspension pushes the axle away from the link mount under compression meaning on the ZJ rear you need to do a lot more trimming to fit a 40.

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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #17
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I think it all depends on the owner. My friend has a 5.2 zj on 42" iroks with d60's.

Il upload a pic when im not on my phone
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #18
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You can get zj's all day long for under 2k here, xj's are all 3k plus.

I think the big reason is that ZJ's are more expensive to lift. For an xj, you only need one set of long arms. Zj you need, front and rear long arms and 2 adjustable track bars. Also the nature of link suspension pushes the axle away from the link mount under compression meaning on the ZJ rear you need to do a lot more trimming to fit a 40.
That's true...kinda didn't even think about have coils in the rear on a ZJ. Leaf springs are always cheaper...
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:06 PM   #19
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I think it all depends on the owner. My friend has a 5.2 zj on 42" iroks with d60's.

Il upload a pic when im not on my phone
Please do I would like to see the trimming he did! Thanks
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:13 PM   #20
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Here she is in all her glory. Everything is custom made by him. The blonde is 5'4" just to give you an idea of how big it really is.
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:17 PM   #21
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same reason you see more TJs on 40's than XJ's. quantity and aftermarket support.

there are more XJ's out there to start with, and the Xj has more aftermarket support for it.
^^this.

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Anyone who is LEGITIMATELY running 40"+ tires on an XJ has put quite a bit of time and/or money making it happen. Anyone can lift a jeep and put mondo tires on it but doing it correctly aint ever cheap or easy. XJ's are simpler, smaller and lighter too which makes em a bit more desirable for serious wheeling I would guess as well
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:17 PM   #22
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So much for the theory of "having to trim a lot"
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Unread 05-29-2013, 09:26 PM   #23
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From what i remember

The front is a radius arm setup with reverse high steer, 6.?? Gears, arb, 12" or 14" coilovers, custom flairs

Rear is triangulated with 7" clayton coils and 2" pucks, bilstines, and an arb. Theres 14" under the diff and 17" under the tubes on the rear d60.

Tires are 42x??x17 iroks on raceline raptors.

The bumpers, rockers, and belly skid were all home made. He relocated the gastank with a fuelcell in the hatch. The ac was converted into a oba setup.

He still has to finish the rear flairs and swing down tire carrier. Only reason they wernt done in the pics is he was rushed due to The Blessing Of The Jeeps here in Michigan.
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Unread 05-30-2013, 10:21 AM   #24
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Its also like why all the toyota guys have 4d's and up. They have a greater after market support which also drives the prices down. Look at trail gear, very large toyota (mostly) support. Leaf springs and some shocks, cut fender and you can easily clear 4d's. I have buddies that have done that.

Yet with a jeep, coils or coilovers plus long arms for larger tires. And axles for sure. Dana 30s barely hold up on 32s for some people.

Toyota housings, with a few upgrades, can be very durable.
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Unread 05-30-2013, 05:35 PM   #25
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Xjs are flat and square, easy to cut on and make look as good as factory and nobody minds beating on them. The grands are too pretty with nice body lines you don't wanna hack up or beat on. Plus all the before mentioned reasons.
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