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Unread 03-15-2013, 09:24 AM   #91
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I have 5.38s with a 4.7 and 37s. I'll let you know how it is when its done.
I'll have 5.38s as well with 37s, but I got the 4.0.

I'm sure you'll be done before me though.

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Unread 03-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #92
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I'll have 5.38s as well with 37s, but I got the 4.0.

I'm sure you'll be done before me though.
I geared it as low as I could for crawling. It won't see much highway miles except to get to the trails. With only one transfer case geared to like 2.72:1, lower in the axles is good. Eventually I'd like to do an atlas, but that's not in the budget now.
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Unread 03-15-2013, 09:30 AM   #93
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I have 5.38s with a 4.7 and 37s. I'll let you know how it is when its done.
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I'll have 5.38s as well with 37s, but I got the 4.0.

I'm sure you'll be done before me though.
For sure, let me know. Looks like you guys just made my mind up to go to 5.38's. Glad I havent bought gears yet.
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I also went as deep as I could so I could go bigger, like 40s, when my 37s wear out and not worry about a lack of gearing.
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Makes sense. I dont ever plan on anything bigger than 37's. I could probably get by with my type of wheeling with 35's, but since im building axles why not go bigger lol. I was leaning towards the 5.38's anyways since the 4.0 could use all the help it can get. With the 4.7L and that gearing I dont see why you would ever have a problem.

Did you end up going the JANA route? Or just stick with regular gears? My plan is to go the Jana K4 route like shown here http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles...l-housing.html
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I also went as deep as I could so I could go bigger, like 40s, when my 37s wear out and not worry about a lack of gearing.
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I was leaning towards the 5.38's anyways since the 4.0 could use all the help it can get.
Pretty much the two biggest reasons why I went 5.38.
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You have a HP 44 right? Like mine? You'd actually use the Jana 54 kit. I had thought about it, but the ring gear isn't the weak point generally. Its normally at the axle shaft u joints or hubs. Now if you are running chromos and ctms or rcvs, maybe that kit would be beneficial.

But for me, if anything super blows up, I'm building a 609.
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your and mtnmarc's builds are making me jealous....wish I had the time to start an axle swap. Hopefully in a few years when I no longer need it as a DD. I want to go HP 60 and sterling rear w/ 37's..
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your and mtnmarc's builds are making me jealous....wish I had the time to start an axle swap. Hopefully in a few years when I no longer need it as a DD. I want to go HP 60 and sterling rear w/ 37's..
You need more than time...

The wallet is the thing that hurts the most. A HP 60 is generally $900-1200 bone stock pulled off a snow plow truck.

I've been buying parts for 3 years, but finally I got most of it and Greg has the time to build it. An empty closet looks weird to me now!
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You have a HP 44 right? Like mine? You'd actually use the Jana 54 kit. I had thought about it, but the ring gear isn't the weak point generally. Its normally at the axle shaft u joints or hubs. Now if you are running chromos and ctms or rcvs, maybe that kit would be beneficial.

But for me, if anything super blows up, I'm building a 609.
Yeah a 3/4 ton ford hp44. I seen the 54 kit, but thats a lot of extra work for something I really wouldnt need, especially on 37's. Thats why I was going to do the k4 kit, it basically your standard r&p change just with different bearings and only minor clearencing. That way I would eliminate any chance of a pinion failure (IIRC 5.38 are almost max on a 44) by going to the bigger/thicker gears and be almost 100% certain that any failure would be at the u-joint/hub.

Chromos are definitely on the list as it seems that when u joints break they usually take the ears out with them.

Im not building an extreme rig, just an uber reliable rig that I can take the family out and have a good time wheeling in without spending my time doing trail repairs. It will also still be a semi daily driver as well. Thats why (aside from the jana kit) im trying to keep the axles as "stock" as possible. That way if I do brake anything, parts will be readily available at the parts store/junk yard.
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your and mtnmarc's builds are making me jealous....wish I had the time to start an axle swap. Hopefully in a few years when I no longer need it as a DD. I want to go HP 60 and sterling rear w/ 37's..
Dont be too jealous. Im still in the parts gathering/planning stages of the axle build. The goal Ive set for the axles is to have them ready by next summers wheeling season. So about a year out still. Its also a little easier on the wallet that way.
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You need more than time...

The wallet is the thing that hurts the most. A HP 60 is generally $900-1200 bone stock pulled off a snow plow truck.
I've been buying parts for 3 years, but finally I got most of it and Greg has the time to build it. An empty closet looks weird to me now!
very true.....however, with the steep hill climbs we have here in the South brings tons and tons of crazy buggies that end up getting parted over time. There are always tons of pre-built axles for sale much cheaper than building them myself. In most cases all i'd need is new mounting brackets. for example there is a dude selling a 60 fron 70 rear already trussed and set up for 4 linking for 1000 bucks for the pair. Last week there was another guy selling front and rear 60's with 5.38's chromos and detroits for 1800 for the pair
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Yeah a 3/4 ton ford hp44. I seen the 54 kit, but thats a lot of extra work for something I really wouldnt need, especially on 37's. Thats why I was going to do the k4 kit, it basically your standard r&p change just with different bearings and only minor clearencing. That way I would eliminate any chance of a pinion failure (IIRC 5.38 are almost max on a 44) by going to the bigger/thicker gears and be almost 100% certain that any failure would be at the u-joint/hub.

Chromos are definitely on the list as it seems that when u joints break they usually take the ears out with them.

Im not building an extreme rig, just an uber reliable rig that I can take the family out and have a good time wheeling in without spending my time doing trail repairs. It will also still be a semi daily driver as well. Thats why (aside from the jana kit) im trying to keep the axles as "stock" as possible. That way if I do brake anything, parts will be readily available at the parts store/junk yard.
That Jana k4 kit is only for low pinion d44s like Chevy or wagoneer. With the HP 44, you'd need to get the Jana 54.
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DAMN! By standard I thought he ment non-jk 44's. Looks like ill be sticking with the factory setup lol.

EDIT: still may do the 54 kit, just gonna have to do some more reading.
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Buddy of mine (TroubleNEO) came to my shop today to do a full audio install while I was working. Nothing insane, just enough to sound good real good with the windows down.




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