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Unread 01-10-2013, 12:07 AM   #361
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Did you make any plates or such stuff to "hold down" the prothanes like in the linked threads or are they just free floating

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Unread 01-10-2013, 04:52 PM   #362
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Did you make any plates or such stuff to "hold down" the prothanes like in the linked threads or are they just free floating
You don't want to hold them down at the base, it will cause them to bind up in the coils when they compress. I do run striker plates at the top, that Dave whipped up. They're made of a piece of pipe that fits snugly inside the Prothane, and is ~1.5-2" long, with a ~3" round piece of 3/16" plate welded on top. I still run some factory style rubber bumpstops up top too, which keeps the noise down.
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Unread 01-11-2013, 07:01 PM   #363
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Anyone know what these mean?



Race Jeep. I only meant to order the two for the front, but apparently 'one' on the Jegs website means one pair, not one individual insert. Oh well, now I have the two for the rear as well. At least I didn't order four, haha...
Sorry for my stupidity, but please explain prothanes to me. I know they are go-fast items, but do you have any pics of them on your ZJ?
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Unread 01-11-2013, 08:05 PM   #364
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They're a progressive bumpstop that sit inside the coil.
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Unread 01-12-2013, 09:30 AM   #365
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Sorry for my stupidity, but please explain prothanes to me. I know they are go-fast items, but do you have any pics of them on your ZJ?
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They're a progressive bumpstop that sit inside the coil.
Dave nailed it. They're just a cheap way to get the Jeep to pretend to be a racecar. IMO, they're worth every penny, they're easy to install and make a big difference. They're a lot stiffer than I had thought they would be, but that ended up working fine as they keep my tires out of the fenders, for the most part. Here's what they look like in the coil.

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Unread 01-12-2013, 09:39 AM   #366
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Post results! I am curious how well they work
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Unread 01-12-2013, 09:55 AM   #367
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Post results! I am curious how well they work
You mean like these posts from the last page? hahaha

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Awesome, well worth the money. I was flogging on it pretty good on Saturday, and it soaked it up no problem. I've driven Jeeps fast in the dirt before, and it sucked, you bounce around, every hit is rough, it's no fun. With these in I really enjoyed it, it's not like riding on a cloud, but nice shocks and the Prothanes made a HUGE difference. The Jeep was a lot easier to control too. I can't wait to get the rears in, and get on it again. Dave rode in it, and drove it too, I'll let him share his thoughts.
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I would agree. Not super smooth but a significant improvement over stock/relocated stock bumpstops.
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Unread 01-13-2013, 07:02 PM   #368
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Cool. Now, how do they work when I'm not playing racecar in my seXJ? I guess I mean, how much do they compress and how would I need to set them up for just regular wheeling? I've jumped my XJ a good bit, but this was with the extended factory upper stops and a hockey puck at the bottom. It works, but it isn't that soft of a landing
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Unread 01-14-2013, 04:26 PM   #369
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Cool. Now, how do they work when I'm not playing racecar in my seXJ? I guess I mean, how much do they compress and how would I need to set them up for just regular wheeling? I've jumped my XJ a good bit, but this was with the extended factory upper stops and a hockey puck at the bottom. It works, but it isn't that soft of a landing
There's a thread on NAXJA in the Jeepspeed section about them, most people tend to run a 1-2" airgap from the upper bumpstop to the Prothane. I have just under 2" gap on mine, and in that picture they are stopping the axle's uptravel. They compress more on hard hits, but not enough to cause issues. I'm thinking of drilling some holes in the upper 2 ring gaps to soften them up and gain back that uptravel while I'm crawling.

I jumped my old XJ a few times, with no bumpstops, and the tires hit the inner fenders so hard it blew the hood open. That was a little uncomfortable haha. I'm excited to see how the ZJ does with nice shocks and actual bumpstops.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 09:27 PM   #370
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There's a thread on NAXJA in the Jeepspeed section about them, most people tend to run a 1-2" airgap from the upper bumpstop to the Prothane. I have just under 2" gap on mine, and in that picture they are stopping the axle's uptravel. They compress more on hard hits, but not enough to cause issues. I'm thinking of drilling some holes in the upper 2 ring gaps to soften them up and gain back that uptravel while I'm crawling.

I jumped my old XJ a few times, with no bumpstops, and the tires hit the inner fenders so hard it blew the hood open. That was a little uncomfortable haha. I'm excited to see how the ZJ does with nice shocks and actual bumpstops.
Cool, I'm going to look into some. I like sky driving the XJ too much to not have some. But my non trussed Dana 30 probably doesn't .!..!.
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Unread 01-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #371
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Cool, I'm going to look into some. I like sky driving the XJ too much to not have some. But my non trussed Dana 30 probably doesn't .!..!.
Yeah, I'd beef that turdy up, especially the knuckles, that's where mine bent.


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Unread 01-20-2013, 09:48 AM   #372
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****ed the Jeep up last night, tore open the unibody at the trackbar mount. I think it started a few weeks ago when I bent the other bracket, and finally gave up the ghost last night. I'm pretty sure it's my own fault too, because I removed that "L" bracket that the factory bolts attach to when the nut broke off inside the unibody. You'll see it in the pictures.

I towed the ZJ home today with my aunt's F350, and I was pleasantly surprised with how well it did, especially considering it only has the 5.4. It did 65-70MPH up all the hills without any drama, never got hot, and was super stable. It definitely wasn't a racecar with ~5-6k behind it, but it wasn't a slouch either.



Here's the damage, it's worse than I thought, but I think it's fixable.






I'm going to clean the garage with Dave tomorrow and pull it in to check it out. I totally destroyed the ARB too, so I'm not going to try to straighten and tuck it like I was planning. I figure if I do end up trying to fix this mess I'll pull the front clip off, pull the radiator, steering box, etc and plate the whole area then build a trackbar/steering box brace and a new front crossmember/bumper at the same time. I really didn't want to get into this right now, as I have a few runs coming up and I'm kind of sick of working on it, but I don't have much of a choice at this point.
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Unread 01-20-2013, 10:39 AM   #373
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Damn dude. That's sucks but atleast it looks like a relatively "simple" fix or strait forward fix. Pics of the arb?
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Unread 01-20-2013, 02:27 PM   #374
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yea heat the are up beat it back and plate it all up nice
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Unread 01-20-2013, 04:06 PM   #375
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Damn dude. That's sucks but atleast it looks like a relatively "simple" fix or strait forward fix. Pics of the arb?
Ehhhh, I don't think it will be easy, but it shouldn't be terrible. The worst part is access, but I'll just strip as much out as I can to get in there. A long piece of 4"x.120 angle iron 'wrapping' the torn area, then a piece of 2 or 3"x.25 facing the other way, properly braced up, and drilled for the trackbar bracket should do the trick. Then I'll brace the bracket and the box over to the other side, after I plate that area too. Fun fun!!

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yea heat the are up beat it back and plate it all up nice
It's thin metal, so there shouldn't be too much heat needed, and hopefully some artful clamping will keep from from having to do too much beating. We'll see.
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