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Unread 11-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #6376
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I had a discussion last night with some friends, trying to account for the extra weight. Didn't figure it all out. Curb weight include fluids?

It is usually fine on the highway. But cruising around town at 35-40 mph just sucked with terrible roads. It felt like something was going to break apart. (Still have an undetermined clunk in the front end, which didn't ease the trip. Replacing UCA is on the list) I don't know if anyone else experienced this but some stuff would throw me over towards another lane. Just couldn't absorb the bump.

Tires... I can not believe I'm still on these balloons. Those I'm sure contributed the jarring and most definitely squirrel-y and being all over the place. But I guess in this case it can't all be blamed on the tires. I do check them on occasion, they leak a lot. I shoot for 33-34 psi.

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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 11-26-2013, 12:24 PM   #6377
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Yup, Curb Weight is the car plus fluids, full tank of fuel, no cargo/driver/passengers.
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Unread 11-26-2013, 01:03 PM   #6378
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Still running Those same tires?
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Unread 11-26-2013, 03:35 PM   #6379
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Wow, so I am way over curb. Pretty funny.

I am on the same tires still, they have been manageable around town. They aren't too much of an issue staying under 45-50. I've been trying to put $ aside for tires again this winter break. As it sits now, the faster I go, the more likely it is to shimmy. I can hit a bridge joint at 50 and probably not even feel a wiggle in the steering but, hit it again at 70+ and it'll shimmy.
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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 11-26-2013, 03:37 PM   #6380
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Also put on new sway bar links for the front. Got them from a member on the forum, new, Moogs. Did that today, easy enough once I found a wrench to get in there for the top bolt.
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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 11-26-2013, 04:39 PM   #6381
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Also put on new sway bar links for the front. Got them from a member on the forum, new, Moogs. Did that today, easy enough once I found a wrench to get in there for the top bolt.
If you jack the body up the sway bar drops down. Makes it easier.
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Unread 11-26-2013, 04:55 PM   #6382
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Wow, so I am way over curb. Pretty funny. I am on the same tires still, they have been manageable around town. They aren't too much of an issue staying under 45-50. I've been trying to put $ aside for tires again this winter break. As it sits now, the faster I go, the more likely it is to shimmy. I can hit a bridge joint at 50 and probably not even feel a wiggle in the steering but, hit it again at 70+ and it'll shimmy.
Get Those tires replaced when ever possible.
They have Been discused here for looong now, lol

I use to have mine around 33-35, but some tires, especially the nokian Winter tires have very much flex in the sidewall, then i was up to 40 something to Get them stabil, with my GGAT2's 70's profile was also quite smooth, i was very sattiesfiedand impressed with handling in highspeed curves due to the high profile, the tire ate the bumbs the stiff BDS setup didnt.
Totaly agree with billzcat That Those billy's handles better when used harder, driven faster over bumbs.
A correct tire (sidewall stifness and pressure) and springrate combo is important to Get a Nice and smooth ride.
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Unread 11-26-2013, 04:55 PM   #6383
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I would have done that if I could have gotten both sides up at the same height. Didn't have any jackstands. Just got an adjustable wrench up there.
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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 11-26-2013, 05:01 PM   #6384
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These stupid tires have just been a pain in the a$$. I'm just spinning my wheels with these still on the Jeep. (Ah-ha, a pun)

Last winter, had all that work done and didn't get a chance to do it. I just ignored them over the summer around town and also was working on paying off large credit card debt from the school year. I'm sure fresh treads will make a world of difference.

Did I ever post on here about how the tires will fold over themselves? I went over a curb at a 45 degree angle and the sidewall flexed to the point where the curb almost hit the rim! They were at proper pressure too!
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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 11-28-2013, 06:07 PM   #6385
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First off, Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone.

Secondly, I took the spare of the Rubicon and put it up next to the WJ. Its a 245/75-16 and it looks big lol. Granted its not "on" the Jeep, just sitting next to it. Looks good!

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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 12-01-2013, 06:21 PM   #6386
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Some more minor updates:

-Made it back from Home to School. Console says 21.1 MPG, by hand it's about 19.7, still not bad.

-Ordered IRO Upper Adjustable Control Arms. IRO had a free shipping coupon which saved $15.

-Going to order tires at the end of the month. I think I am going to stick with the 245/70-17 tire size which is a 30.5, maybe that rounds to a 31". I don't think any bigger is needed and it'd just harm what little fuel economy that I have around town. I am still going for the Silent Armours at the moment. Open to discussion again.
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~ 04 WJ 4.0 | Selec-Trac 242 | MBP | OME HD 3" Lift | JKS TB | IRO Front LCA's and UCA's| Bilstein 5100's | Custom Front D.S. | Stillen Rotors/Metal Matrix Pads | Tow Package w/ 3.73's | Projectors w/ 55w HID H1 5000K Lows | Sylvania Ultra 9005 Fogs | Moog HD Steering | Kenwood eXcelon Radio | Memphis Speakers | Alpine Amps | Alpine Subs | Moog STB SS | Superchips Flashpaq | Auxiliary Transmission Cooler | Rock Lights | Light Bars ~

~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 12-01-2013, 07:04 PM   #6387
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Good milage, and good desicion on the tires, Silent Armor Are great tires as far i can see, never tried them myself, i would have Go for 255's though, then they Will sit more flush with fender and look better, price should be about the same.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 08:55 AM   #6388
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They'll rub the control arms even more so than the 245's already do. That's why I don't think I want them.
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~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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Unread 12-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #6389
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Great choice. Nothing but praise for the Silent Armors on my WJ. Firm sidewalls, confident handling, and never lacking for traction on/off road. Not "Silent" but they are reasonably quiet for a moderately aggressive AT.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 09:53 AM   #6390
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That is good to hear! How many miles do you have on them now? I am just over 30k miles on these balloons for tires and they are only about ~25% tread left. Definitely did not hold up or last very long.

What do you think about the 255 vs the 245? I already have a tad bit of rubbing on the IRO LCA's because there is not a bend in them. I am thinking just stick with the 245's.
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~ 04 WJ 4.0 | Selec-Trac 242 | MBP | OME HD 3" Lift | JKS TB | IRO Front LCA's and UCA's| Bilstein 5100's | Custom Front D.S. | Stillen Rotors/Metal Matrix Pads | Tow Package w/ 3.73's | Projectors w/ 55w HID H1 5000K Lows | Sylvania Ultra 9005 Fogs | Moog HD Steering | Kenwood eXcelon Radio | Memphis Speakers | Alpine Amps | Alpine Subs | Moog STB SS | Superchips Flashpaq | Auxiliary Transmission Cooler | Rock Lights | Light Bars ~

~ Snobrdrkid's "Build" Thread ~ YouTube Channel ~ Fuelly ~WJ 4.0 Transmission Cooler Info ~

~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | 2" Spacer Lift | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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