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Unread 06-17-2012, 02:51 PM   #4336
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My jeep does the same thing, kind of feels like the front end goes light? Could be the tre's
It just seems like I am having to correct it more then I did previously. I do seem to get the same feeling too.

MAYBE it is because my steering wheel is off center and its throwing ME off thinking to go straight to hold the wheel straight but I can currently do that. But that doesn't really explain the 'lighter' feeling in the front.

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Unread 06-17-2012, 03:04 PM   #4337
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It just seems like I am having to correct it more then I did previously. I do seem to get the same feeling too.

MAYBE it is because my steering wheel is off center and its throwing ME off thinking to go straight to hold the wheel straight but I can currently do that. But that doesn't really explain the 'lighter' feeling in the front.
Mine is off too lol I'm going to do the tre's and If that doesn't fix it I'll be upgrading to a Durango steering box
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Unread 06-17-2012, 03:57 PM   #4338
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Mine does it too. I think is has something to do with the track bar not being completely parallel to the drag link? Something with the geometry of the steering components.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 04:05 PM   #4339
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All Moog TRE's and adjusting sleeves.

Well thank you too. The first package to come to me from Hawaii ever!

How in the world did it get bent??
Mall crawling....web wheeling...ha ha ha...sarcasm

I don't remember, either Ocatillo wells or Calico....probably a big rock....fortunately I have a stock tie rod to replace it with....its cheaper to replace it with stock parts, at least this part is....
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Unread 06-17-2012, 04:49 PM   #4340
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Mine is off too lol I'm going to do the tre's and If that doesn't fix it I'll be upgrading to a Durango steering box
That a direct swap?

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Mine does it too. I think is has something to do with the track bar not being completely parallel to the drag link? Something with the geometry of the steering components.
Hmmm you did the moog upgrade already right? Those two not being parallel does apparently cause bump steer from what I've heard
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Unread 06-17-2012, 04:52 PM   #4341
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Mall crawling....web wheeling...ha ha ha...sarcasm

I don't remember, either Ocatillo wells or Calico....probably a big rock....fortunately I have a stock tie rod to replace it with....its cheaper to replace it with stock parts, at least this part is....
The Moog sleeve was only like 25 bucks man.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #4342
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:06 PM   #4343
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The Moog sleeve was only like 25 bucks man.
Really, as In the whole bar? Good to know.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:09 PM   #4344
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Really, as In the whole bar? Good to know.
Heck yeah man. The really long tie rod sleeve was like 25 and the the drag link was like 23. Check out rockauto.com. that is where i got my stuff at.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:26 PM   #4345
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Heck yeah man. The really long tie rod sleeve was like 25 and the the drag link was like 23. Check out rockauto.com. that is where i got my stuff at.
Cool. I didn't know they were that cheap. I bought a used spare tie rod for $40 with good TREs....
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:32 PM   #4346
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Cool. I didn't know they were that cheap. I bought a used spare tie rod for $40 with good TREs....
Thats not bad. What type of tie rods?
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:39 PM   #4347
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Thats not bad. What type of tie rods?
I dunno...stock....whatevrr was equipped with a stock tie rod...
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:42 PM   #4348
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I dunno...stock....whatevrr was equipped with a stock tie rod...
Gotcha. Didn't know if it was after market or something like that.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 05:55 PM   #4349
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Hmmm you did the moog upgrade already right? Those two not being parallel does apparently cause bump steer from what I've heard
yeah i did the moog upgrade. Defiantly tightened my steering up, but it needs an alignment. The threads on the moog tres vs stock are different i believe. It still tracks straight, but i have horrible tire wear now (ordering new tires soon). Plus my steering wheel is off centered. An alignment should fix everything once and for all. Not sure about bump steer tho, you would need to mess around with the geometry and that can get expensive.
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Unread 06-17-2012, 06:12 PM   #4350
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yeah i did the moog upgrade. Defiantly tightened my steering up, but it needs an alignment. The threads on the moog tres vs stock are different i believe. It still tracks straight, but i have horrible tire wear now (ordering new tires soon). Plus my steering wheel is off centered. An alignment should fix everything once and for all. Not sure about bump steer tho, you would need to mess around with the geometry and that can get expensive.
Anything suspension is gonna be expensive. Ughhhh. It sounds like you need a serious alignment. Why would you wait???
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