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Unread 09-06-2011, 10:49 PM   #1786
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I guess that would still help! I can see how it would help with bugs too! Keeping crap out of the grooves!

Do you have the mechanical fan too? That is what splashes everywhere! The electric fan isnt bad because it is in the shroud
i have the Hydraulic Engine Cooling system, just the plastic fan blades

this is what my engine looked like after my trip, not allot but am still getting the mud out. i was driving in muddy water that was around the top of the bumper. mostly got the passenger side, thinking of fabing up some type of plastic splash guard. i should of just taking my bumper off to clean because i had the hose for over 20 min and still had mud/dirt coming out from behind the bumper. swamps smelt bad but it looked cool driving threw.




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Unread 09-06-2011, 10:50 PM   #1787
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That is pretty much what mine looks like too! It is a really big PIA!!!
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Unread 09-06-2011, 10:55 PM   #1788
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i put in my .75 spacers in the front today...and cant really tell a difference?? hah
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Unread 09-06-2011, 11:24 PM   #1789
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i put in my .75 spacers in the front today...and cant really tell a difference?? hah
Lol fail
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Unread 09-06-2011, 11:28 PM   #1790
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Lol fail
yeah hahah ...kinda shows how much the RC lift sagged...cause its supposed to be 3.5 in the back and now the front is completely level ...you can kinda tell ..you just gotta double look
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Unread 09-07-2011, 04:54 AM   #1791
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LOL that is kinda of fail. I noticed on mine and there was a measured difference and my front LCA went out of parallel to the ground afterwards.
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Unread 09-07-2011, 05:15 AM   #1792
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So, Whats the best springs at stock or 1-2" lift height That Are most resistant to sagging?
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Unread 09-07-2011, 05:51 AM   #1793
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So, Whats the best springs at stock or 1-2" lift height That Are most resistant to sagging?
Any Spring that is not stock (that I know of) has a higher spring rate (meaning stiffer). But honestly the main reason for WJ sagging is the rubber isolators crushing over time.
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Unread 09-07-2011, 05:55 AM   #1794
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Any Spring that is not stock (that I know of) has a higher spring rate (meaning stiffer). But honestly the main reason for WJ sagging is the rubber isolators crushing over time.
Ok, That makes sense, i just cant decide If i am going for new springs or just isolators. Also springs with higher spring rate Will improve road manners but Will reduce comfort, dont want it to be too stiff either.
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Unread 09-07-2011, 05:59 AM   #1795
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Ok, That makes sense, i just cant decide If i am going for new springs or just isolators. Also springs with higher dpring rate Will improve road manners but Will reduce comfort, dont want it to be too stiff either.
Isolators are always a good choice. OME springs has a really nice road handling ride and a comfortable ride. They seem to be a good balance between the two. Especially with the bilstien shocks paired with them. Ask Kolak about spring rates. He knows the more technical aspect about them (or I would assume)

For my lift at one point, I was looking at 2" BDS coils. Hearing good things about them
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Unread 09-07-2011, 06:11 AM   #1796
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Isolators are always a good choice. OME springs has a really nice road handling ride and a comfortable ride. They seem to be a good balance between the two. Especially with the bilstien shocks paired with them. Ask Kolak about spring rates. He knows the more technical aspect about them (or I would assume)

For my lift at one point, I was looking at 2" BDS coils. Hearing good things about them
Thought i could Ask YOU, seems like you know EVERYTHING. Ha ha ha 
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Unread 09-07-2011, 06:33 AM   #1797
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Thought i could Ask YOU, seems like you know EVERYTHING. Ha ha ha 
Hahahahaha. Well I COULD look it up HOWEVER, I'm sitting in chem class. Trying to balance jeepforum and notes haha.
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Unread 09-07-2011, 06:42 AM   #1798
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I Will find out myself, no woories, close your app man, and focus on your studies.
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Unread 09-07-2011, 06:53 AM   #1799
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I Will find out myself, no woories, close your app man, and focus on your studies.
Tehehe. I'm out of class now and have an hour break until the next one. I do know that there are 3 types of OME for the WJ, light/medium/heavy. Ill look for the numbers to each and try to compare them to stock, and other company springs
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Unread 09-07-2011, 12:02 PM   #1800
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^^^X2 i Really want to see, What do you guys Think about plenum size of the intake theory, i know people have tried it out at BMW's before and Dyno shows That stock can be better over CAI due to larger plenum....
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There is a link between plenum length/volume and the powercurve of an engine, longer usually means better torque and shorter better top end power. So it can be beneficial on some engines to have longer and more complex systems.

On top of that you have the issue of turbulance vs laminar flow, some filters can create massive amounts of turbulence which in turn create dead spaces and vortexes in the induction system which actually reduce flow overall.
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