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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:23 AM   #1771
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do those prefilters effect the suction of a CAI at all?
Not sure man. Worth a try though for wheeling in water

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when you put in your front .75 spacers what way does that angled indent go? ...pointing towards the body ..or pointing towards the isolator?
Sorry for delayed response...

I put them on so the top of the spacer sat flush on the body. It would work the other way... I think it was the bigger opening at the top

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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:26 AM   #1772
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ok thanks for the info on the spacers...and i think im gunna get one of those prefilters ...
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:31 AM   #1773
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ok thanks for the info on the spacers...and i think im gunna get one of those prefilters ...
Yea no problem man! I like the change of people asking me questions over me asking everyone else questions!

If I had a cai and knowing me and the stupid crap id do... for example hitting all the puddles and driving through lots of water... id get it.

When you drive through deep water and it hits the mechanical fan, it splashes everywhere in the engine bay
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:34 AM   #1774
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you should get one of these:

I stole that from moony's thread. all copyrights to moony thread inc.
I can not see the point of CAI when they draw in hot air from engine compartment and not fresh air from the grill as the stock setup Does. Also it aint Any advantage to have a smaller plenum, the stock setup has a larger plenum with the resonator box. I belive That is better!
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:37 AM   #1775
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I can not see the point of CAI when they draw in hot air from engine compartment and not fresh air from the grill as the stock setup Does. Also it aint Any advantage to have a smaller plenum, the stock setup has a larger plenum with the resonator box. I belive That is better!
i made my own heat shield and intake...and it bumped up my MPGs alot... and i always check the air filter and its alway cold ill snap some pictures of my setup later
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:38 AM   #1776
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I can not see the point of CAI when they draw in hot air from engine compartment and not fresh air from the grill as the stock setup Does. Also it aint Any advantage to have a smaller plenum, the stock setup has a larger plenum with the resonator box. I belive That is better!
There is a heat sheild that blocks a lot of the heat so it sucks it up from the bottom. Supposedly

Less restriction. More air and easier.

Sounds louder too
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:39 AM   #1777
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i made my own heat shield and intake...and it bumped up my MPGs alot... and i always check the air filter and its alway cold ill snap some pictures of my setup later
Bump!

Take pics
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:43 AM   #1778
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Bump!

Take pics
^^^X2 i Really want to see, What do you guys Think about plenum size of the intake theory, i know people have tried it out at BMW's before and Dyno shows That stock can be better over CAI due to larger plenum....
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:47 AM   #1779
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^^^X2 i Really want to see, What do you guys Think about plenum size of the intake theory, i know people have tried it out at BMW's before and Dyno shows That stock can be better over CAI due to larger plenum....
Hmmmm I'm not sure what a plenum is... where is it?

K&N designed the intake for optimal everything on this case.

BMW already designed their stuff stock super awesome compared to stock jeep
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:50 AM   #1780
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Hmmmm I'm not sure what a plenum is... where is it?

K&N designed the intake for optimal everything on this case.

BMW already designed their stuff stock super awesome compared to stock jeep
By plenum i mean the volume of the intake....
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:53 AM   #1781
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By plenum i mean the volume of the intake....
I'm still not exactly getting this. Lol. Split between jeep forum and calculus class
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Volume of air between the filter and TB, Go study man!
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Unread 09-05-2011, 11:02 AM   #1783
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Volume of air between the filter and TB, Go study man!
Ohhhhh. I got what you're saying now haha. Wow that took too long. Well honestly I'm not sure. Would have to do some research...

Ahhh calculus, isn't that hard
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Yea no problem man! I like the change of people asking me questions over me asking everyone else questions!

If I had a cai and knowing me and the stupid crap id do... for example hitting all the puddles and driving through lots of water... id get it.

When you drive through deep water and it hits the mechanical fan, it splashes everywhere in the engine bay

the filter cover or pre filter are only good for mist and drop of water not for going threw a puddle or lakes, its like water resistant . mainly its for keeping things form getting stuck int he groves liek bugs and dirt. http://www.knfilters.com/search/wrap.aspx

tell me about the fan getting everything everywhere. i went wheeling when i rain and mos of the road turned to mud my engine bay was covered all over in mud still cleaning iut up lol.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 11:57 AM   #1785
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the filter cover or pre filter are only good for mist and drop of water not for going threw a puddle or lakes, its like water resistant . mainly its for keeping things form getting stuck int he groves liek bugs and dirt. http://www.knfilters.com/search/wrap.aspx

tell me about the fan getting everything everywhere. i went wheeling when i rain and mos of the road turned to mud my engine bay was covered all over in mud still cleaning iut up lol.
I guess that would still help! I can see how it would help with bugs too! Keeping crap out of the grooves!

Do you have the mechanical fan too? That is what splashes everywhere! The electric fan isnt bad because it is in the shroud
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