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Unread 09-01-2011, 05:52 PM   #1651
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Thomahawk,
rezeppa utilized CV joints on both ends of the driveshaft, as double cardan is u-joints. U-joints allow the driveshaft to be at a more severe angle, yet still easily do the job...to put it simply.

Snobrdkid, the drive shaft you have now is the same as mine and many others. It'll handle up to a 3.5" lift at the most.
You think that I should get that drive shaft and get a the yoke for the t-case? 60 for shaft shipped and the yoke was like 60 bucks. All together a 120 dollar ish upgrade.

I think my rzeppa joint at the t-case is making some noise cause when i have it in 4x4 i am hearing some whine or something.

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Unread 09-01-2011, 05:55 PM   #1652
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Thanks guys now i know and learned something new today also. So the u joint can handle more of an angle and is stronger right?
I may have to look into this soon, cause of the vibrations i described, maybe its better i just upgrade to dobbel cardon with u joint Than struggling with That crappy cv joint?
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Unread 09-01-2011, 05:57 PM   #1653
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You think that I should get that drive shaft and get a the yoke for the t-case? 60 for shaft shipped and the yoke was like 60 bucks. All together a 120 dollar ish upgrade.

I think my rzeppa joint at the t-case is making some noise cause when i have it in 4x4 i am hearing some whine or something.
Offcourse, just empty every pocket, you save alot These days anyway not using your Jeep. Cant belive How cheap things Are for you guys over There......

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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:00 PM   #1654
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Thanks guys now i know and learned something new today also. So the u joint can handle more of an angle and is stronger right?
I may have to look into this soon, cause of the vibrations i described, maybe its better i just upgrade to dobbel cardon with u joint Than struggling with That crappy cv joint?
To my current knowledge and what I have picked up here on JeepForum and Pirate4x4:
- Double Cardon Joint is better then a CV joint.
- Double cardon can handle more of an angle for a lift.
- U-Joints are ususally better then a CV

Go under your Jeep and take pics like I did and post up! Lets see what you got!

There are so many variations that Jeep did with the front driveshafts!
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:00 PM   #1655
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You think that I should get that drive shaft and get a the yoke for the t-case? 60 for shaft shipped and the yoke was like 60 bucks. All together a 120 dollar ish upgrade.

I think my rzeppa joint at the t-case is making some noise cause when i have it in 4x4 i am hearing some whine or something.
If it fits, thats one hell of a deal!!


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Thanks guys now i know and learned something new today also. So the u joint can handle more of an angle and is stronger right?
I may have to look into this soon, cause of the vibrations i described, maybe its better i just upgrade to dobbel cardon with u joint Than struggling with That crappy cv joint?
Correct, and upgrading while your in there sure wouldn't hurt.

There are different types of driveshafts that you need to remember:



I have the double cardan-rzeppa, and its doing well at 3" of lift.

Rzeppa-rzeppa is the worst it gets, and I've read of guys blowing them up with a BB while climbing a curb. Haha
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:04 PM   #1656
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If it fits, thats one hell of a deal!!

Correct, and upgrading while your in there sure wouldn't hurt.

There are different types of driveshafts that you need to remember:



I have the double cardan-rzeppa, and its doing well at 3" of lift.

Rzeppa-rzeppa is the worst it gets, and I've read of guys blowing them up with a BB while climbing a curb. Haha
Well did you see the picture of the drive shaft that was for sale on ebay? did you also see the picture of my front drive shaft? I'd have to buy the yoke separate. I plan on going 2-3 inches down the road. So it is worth buying that shaft of ebay now and just holding on to it?

Which end is your double cardon joint on? t-case or the axle?

My front drive shaft setup is not pictured above lol.
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:05 PM   #1657
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I Will check it out when its back in My hands and i have the time again, i have a friend that work is a mechanic That owes me some favours, cause i Made all the electric instalation in his house.

It havent been like this before, maybe its just because i am seeing 100k miles soon. Used to run super smooth in 105 mph and more, no vibration ever, but latly i Get theese minor vibs at 75-80mph.
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:07 PM   #1658
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Well did you see the picture of the drive shaft that was for sale on ebay? did you also see the picture of my front drive shaft? I'd have to buy the yoke separate. I plan on going 2-3 inches down the road. So it is worth buying that shaft of ebay now and just holding on to it?

Which end is your double cardon joint on? t-case or the axle?

My front drive shaft setup is not pictured above lol.
My u-joint is on the axle side, cv on transfer case.
Yeah, I believe you have the same drive shaft as me, but you also said it was whining correct? I'm on my phone right now so pics aren't loading too well...(let me say, being in school SUCKS right now, lol)
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:08 PM   #1659
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I Will check it out when its back in My hands and i have the time again, i have a friend that work is a mechanic That owes me some favours, cause i Made all the electric instalation in his house.

It havent been like this before, maybe its just because i am seeing 100k miles soon. Used to run super smooth in 105 mph and more, no vibration ever, but latly i Get theese minor vibs at 75-80mph.
Yea okay! Don't forget lol! My Jeep get like 6 miles to the gallon at 102 mph. tehehehehe

Describe the vibes? where do you feel them? Steering wheel? Whole jeep?
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:10 PM   #1660
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My u-joint is on the axle side, cv on transfer case.
Yeah, I believe you have the same drive shaft as me, but you also said it was whining correct? I'm on my phone right now so pics aren't loading too well...(let me say, being in school SUCKS right now, lol)
I have a single u-joint at the axle and a rzeppa CV at the t-case. That is why i would need a new yoke when and if I get that driveshaft. I think that it will already meet up with my axle fine seeing how my current shaft and this new shaft both have a u-joint.
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You said the new driveshaft is 31"s?
Did you go under and measure yours as well?
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:13 PM   #1662
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You said the new driveshaft is 31"s?
Did you go under and measure yours as well?
Ebay seller - "Cherokee front drive shaft in good shape. Measures 31 inches from ujoint center to ujoint center when collapsed. Extends approx 4 inches. Length generally found on 4.0, automatic Cherokees 87-02 and Grands 93-95. Please measure your current drive shaft to make sure that it will fit your Jeep."

That is the listed description. But the title also mentions grand Cherokee.

nope I have not measured mine, I am in college at Virginia Tech and wont have my Jeep for the first semester.
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:15 PM   #1663
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Ahhh...sorry bro, this is where my knowledge shortens out...hopefully some one else can chip in.
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Unread 09-01-2011, 06:18 PM   #1664
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Ahhh...sorry bro, this is where my knowledge shortens out...hopefully some one else can chip in.
Gonna post up in the technical about the shaft.
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Yea okay! Don't forget lol! My Jeep get like 6 miles to the gallon at 102 mph. tehehehehe

Describe the vibes? where do you feel them? Steering wheel? Whole jeep?
No, nothing like That, nothing in steering wheel or the whole Jeep, its just a very small vibration like Uneven road surface but its speed related, and i am Really sure its drivetrain. Dosnt usualy drive in That speed all the time so it hasnt been a big bigger yet, but something That i need to track down when i Get the time.
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