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That is my biggest worry.

Got of the phone with father... he was mad....
He doesn't want you lifting the Jeep?



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He doesn't want you lifting the Jeep?
Quote from father "you do not need to spend money on springs when you need to be paying for gas"

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Quote from father "you do not need to spend money on springs when you need to be paying for gas"
well that's true, can fill up the jeep at least one time with lift money and its only going up.
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your 18, and its your money.

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your 18, and its your money.
He also lives with his parents and lives on their dime. Thus 'discretionary' money is at their discretion.


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He also lives with his parents and lives on their dime. Thus 'discretionary' money is at their discretion.
Yup...! Gotta respect what the p's want...! Even though it may suck right now, your time will come bro! just be patient and keep working on them, they will slide eventually!

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well that's true, can fill up the jeep at least one time with lift money and its only going up.
Maybe I just need to find someone who is giving out some Up Cntry springs and ill get some 3/4 trim spacers for cheap.

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your 18, and its your money.
This is true... however that below is also true.

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He also lives with his parents and lives on their dime. Thus 'discretionary' money is at their discretion.
I guess all in good time.

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Yup...! Gotta respect what the p's want...!
Yea I do, sadly.

So here is the stipulation... To lift the Jeep it has to cost me $0.00. Challenge ACCEPTED!
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Maybe I just need to find someone who is giving out some Up Cntry springs and ill get some 3/4 trim spacers for cheap.
$35 a pair
a bit under $90 for front and rear shipped. so kind of a wast compared to get 2" bb for a bit over $100
http://www.cyberjeep.com/wj/pr/coil-...ar-75-lift-red

just save your money up and don't tell them. then a month or 2 later show them how much you have saved on the side. make the point again and see what happens.
cna get the jeep stuck and show that you need a 2" lift to keep it form happening again but might damaged something.

i fell for you man. every time i get something for the jeep my father says something. so i try to keep it stockist without going nuts since he drives it now and then as well as my sister. one of the big reason i cant go allot over 2" is that so many people get in and out that it will be to high.
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$35 a pair
a bit under $90 for front and rear shipped. so kind of a wast compared to get 2" bb for a bit over $100
http://www.cyberjeep.com/wj/pr/coil-...ar-75-lift-red

just save your money up and don't tell them. then a month or 2 later show them how much you have saved on the side. make the point again and see what happens.
cna get the jeep stuck and show that you need a 2" lift to keep it form happening again but might damaged something.

i fell for you man. every time i get something for the jeep my father says something. so i try to keep it stockist without going nuts since he drives it now and then as well as my sister. one of the big reason i cant go allot over 2" is that so many people get in and out that it will be to high.
I will save up some more. I just for some reason can't bit the bullet and order a BB out of spite cause i am so worried that I am gonna mess stuff up. (I don't remember If I told everyone about the rubicon nightmare)

I will keep an eye out for someone who wants to help a child out with some extra parts too.

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Rubicon nightmare? Well, keep an eye out on JF classifieds. I wouldn't trust CL that much these days. There are a lot of scams, and all you need is to get scammed while trying to get Jeep parts you're not even supposed to be getting in the first place. I'd definitely not go ahead with anything without the parents' consent.


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Rubicon nightmare? Well, keep an eye out on JF classifieds. I wouldn't trust CL that much these days. There are a lot of scams, and all you need is to get scammed while trying to get Jeep parts you're not even supposed to be getting in the first place. I'd definitely not go ahead with anything without the parents' consent.
I sadly agree with not doing anything against parent's will.

Rubicon + 1.5" BB = FAILLLLL

Okay, so we order some aluminum spacers (mind you with 15K on the jeep). Put em on... successes. didn't get an alignment. Month later... DEATH WOBBLE INSANITY. Blew the shocks and the SS. Got new aftermarket shocks and a bigger aftermarket SS. (which I know now is a band-aid fix) Alignment. That kinda helped. DW was still there. Got a JKS ADJ TB and got new Goodyear Kevlar MT/R tires. Alignment by and Off-road shop. That pretty much fixed the insane DW. We still have terrible bump steer and major 45-65 mph vibes like crazy... Basically a 100 dollar boost turned into 2200 dollar nightmare... with services, alignments, tires, parts, shocks, PIA'ness.

Ideas to fix vibes and bump steer please help me out.

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that might be the reason why your dads saying no lift.

i like the look wheel spacers give but they but so much stress on the axial
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Is it an Unlimited(4-door)? I'd imagine a lot of geometry is changed with even 2 inches of lift on a 2 door, shorter wheel-base Wrangler. They have driveshaft angles, transfer case angle, swaybar links, etc. to consider. I'd think somewhere along the line you have something off, but I'm not close to an expert here.

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I sadly agree with not doing anything against parent's will.

Rubicon + 1.5" BB = FAILLLLL

Okay, so we order some aluminum spacers (mind you with 15K on the jeep). Put em on... successes. didn't get an alignment. Month later... DEATH WOBBLE INSANITY. Blew the shocks and the SS. Got new aftermarket shocks and a bigger aftermarket SS. (which I know now is a band-aid fix) Alignment. That kinda helped. DW was still there. Got a JKS ADJ TB and got new Goodyear Kevlar MT/R tires. Alignment by and Off-road shop. That pretty much fixed the insane DW. We still have terrible bump steer and major 45-65 mph vibes like crazy... Basically a 100 dollar boost turned into 2200 dollar nightmare... with services, alignments, tires, parts, shocks, PIA'ness.

Ideas to fix vibes and bump steer please help me out.


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that might be the reason why your dads saying no lift.

i like the look wheel spacers give but they but so much stress on the axial
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I don't have wheel spacers on the Rubicon. The spring spacers are aluminum

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Is it an Unlimited(4-door)? I'd imagine a lot of geometry is changed with even 2 inches of lift on a 2 door, shorter wheel-base Wrangler. They have driveshaft angles, transfer case angle, swaybar links, etc. to consider. I'd think somewhere along the line you have something off, but I'm not close to an expert here.
The 2005 Rubicon Unlimited its the TJ (technically the LJ) and not the JK

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~ 05 Rubicon Unlimited 4.0 | 6-Speed | Dana 44's | Air Lockers | 4.11 Gears | Rock-Trac 241OR T-Case with 4:1 4-Low | OME HD Springs | Bilstein 5100ís | 245/75/16 Kevlar MT/R's on Moabs | Hansen Offroad Steel F/R Bumpers | Warn 9000xi Winch | Edge Performance Chip | Custom CAI | Hella Off-road Lights | Cobra 29 CB | Flash Lights | Recovery Gear | Fire Extinguisher ~

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