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post #4981 of 6769 Old 07-31-2012, 09:28 AM
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post #4982 of 6769 Old 07-31-2012, 11:33 AM
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Cool, sounds like he did a quick look at things for you. If you still have any slop at all after the track bar bushing replacement I'd inspect the control arms a little more thoroughly than just looking. The upper control arm bushing that I showed you a picture of is tucked up in the body and not something you can get a very good look at for inspecting. I'm suspect of them in any high mileage WJ, even if not death wobbling.

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Cool, sounds like he did a quick look at things for you. If you still have any slop at all after the track bar bushing replacement I'd inspect the control arms a little more thoroughly than just looking. The upper control arm bushing that I showed you a picture of is tucked up in the body and not something you can get a very good look at for inspecting. I'm suspect of them in any high mileage WJ, even if not death wobbling.
I agree, if it is still swaying around after the track bar is tightened up. We will have to pull control arms and look more closely at them. At least I now know the ball joints don't have any play in them. And the the control arms don't have any noticeable movement during the "front end shakedown" that's what he called it lol.

Like I said previously, I am going to take it back and we are going to the track bar install and we will closely look at the track bar hole etc. There was no point to take it off today to turn around and do the same thing a few days later and install the new bushings. (Hope the bushings will be here Friday or Saturday)

At least for now I have some more peace of mind that its not going to fall apart on me.

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post #4984 of 6769 Old 07-31-2012, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
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Ouch rust. :

Found that hiding behind a piece of trim plastic. Driver side rear tire fender.

Scraped the bubbled paint and scraped the rust off to clean sheet metal and painted over w/ touch up paint. Going to clear coat it later.
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Ouch rust. :

Found that hiding behind a piece of trim plastic. Driver side rear tire fender.

Scraped the bubbled paint and scraped the rust off to clean sheet metal and painted over w/ touch up paint. Going to clear coat it later.
will come back it you at least did not blast it or use some rust eating primer Just FYI

EDIT: fixed it
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post #4986 of 6769 Old 07-31-2012, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
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will come back it you at least did not blast it or use some rusting primer Just FYI
Umm. Not sure what you mean. Can't read the text haha

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Umm. Not sure what you mean. Can't read the text haha
It's not clean enough- should have sanded down some of the area. That will last for a bit but the rust will bubble back through.

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It's not clean enough- should have sanded down some of the area. That will last for a bit but the rust will bubble back through.
Well if it will hold for a bit that's fine. If someone would like to share the correct way to do it, that'd be great. Sounds like I need to rough it up more? I had scraped it down to bare silver sheet metal and then went over it with the touch up. Needs primed first?

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Well if it will hold for a bit that's fine. If someone would like to share the correct way to do it, that'd be great. Sounds like I need to rough it up more? I had scraped it down to bare silver sheet metal and then went over it with the touch up. Needs primed first?
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Thanks man. Ill pick up a can of that and redo it

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Ouch! That's how it all starts. Mud and water and gunk gets held back there and it just starts eating away. Sucks. Funny because mine is spotless up until the rockers and then it's like Hooooooly moly. Still gotta decide what to do about that. I may just cut them out the overland sliders pretty much take their place.

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I knowww I hate it. Really makes me upset. Thankfully that is the ONLY spot on the entire painted surface that I have an issue with. If it comes back ill have a shop take a look at it. But what are you gonna do about it, other then fix it, its just going to happen. The entire under body frame doesn't have a spec of rust on it. The only other issue with rust was where the coil perch was. That is virtually it. I've taken care of all other spots with "rust-killer" primer and black paint.

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Rust is a killer it really sucks man. Mine never had a single problem till I moved up north the salt they have in upstate NY chews metal apart vs in my hometown salt is banned so we only get sanded which is awesome

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Ugh... terrible. Salt is a killed. I wish the whole uni-body was dunked in like multiple layers of primer to get into every last crack.

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Other then some specs here and there. Then the muffler. Its pretty clean underneath.
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