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post #3841 of 6770 Old 04-27-2012, 10:29 AM Thread Starter
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post #3842 of 6770 Old 04-27-2012, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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More like "get a Sprint Car if you want to do that"
I actually have a friend who races on dirt, its really cool!

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post #3843 of 6770 Old 04-27-2012, 10:44 AM
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It's not drifting unless you are oversteering (to the point of counter-steer required) before the apex of the turn. I hate how the term "drift" gets applied constantly to powersliding.
Well said sir. I had a couple of these situations in my XJ but only in the snow and when I had tried to break her loose. It's good fun with a 4x4/awd car and a lot easier to not spin out. HOWEVER if you've ever tried anything in the WJ the 247 will sabotage you to the point of under steer

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I was messing around, I don't drive crazy all the time. And I think you mean when you "turn right to go left" I built a dirt race track at the farm and I took my Jeep on it, and I was almost at full lock to the right at time going around the track making left turns. I think that is what you mean by drifting?
Sort of. Counter steering is more or less turning in the direction where your rear is trying to drift out so you get more control of the drift. While yes you are turning in the opposite direction of the turn you're only turning "left" let's say to prevent yourself from going too much "right". go watch some Travis Pastrana drift vids and watch his front wheels coming out of turns. Especially with awd or 4x4 counter steering with some gas can help you pull out of the drift by the apex of the turn, at which point traditionally on a RWD car (which the jeep 247 is when it has traction) you want to be foot on the gas hard accelerating out of the turn.

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St0p abusing your jeep. Get a honda if you want to do that
Bahahahaha beater Honda yesssss!

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Thats why you should drive like grandma. ssssllllooooowwwww lmao
Funny you mention this... I was taught to drive by my grandma, on her white WJ 4.0... Which is now my 'grandma Jeep' which ironically is now lifted and sees 3krpm+ on a frequent basis with me behind the wheel. I drive conservatively... But to hell am I going to baby the engine and slug up to speed. And to hell am I coming to a crawl for every turn I take, that just wastes gas. If I'm squealing the tires, im taking things a little too far.

Ps to anyone curious the WJ with the 247 does NOT like to lose traction on dry pavement. While limit testing with my new suspension geometry I was able to bust the front end loose into an under steer and it was very scary because the second i lost traction in the rear it started engaging the front which made for major understeer. The coils and shocks hold the Jeep nice and steady but the sheer feeling of that much momentum going into a turn on an SUV with offroad suspension will give a weird feel. Can't believe it but the factory suspension was A LOT worse in this regard. In other news, my XJ having the 231 is quite tail happy because of the lack of weight.

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post #3844 of 6770 Old 04-27-2012, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
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Sort of. Counter steering is more or less turning in the direction where your rear is trying to drift out so you get more control of the drift. While yes you are turning in the opposite direction of the turn you're only turning "left" let's say to prevent yourself from going too much "right". go watch some Travis Pastrana drift vids and watch his front wheels coming out of turns. Especially with awd or 4x4 counter steering with some gas can help you pull out of the drift by the apex of the turn, at which point traditionally on a RWD car (which the jeep 247 is when it has traction) you want to be foot on the gas hard accelerating out of the turn.
I have seen his videos along with Ken Brock who drifts the all wheel drive Fiesta. Which is really funny.

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Bahahahaha beater Honda yesssss!
Yeah rather trash the trash then something nice!

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Funny you mention this... I was taught to drive by my grandma, on her white WJ 4.0... Which is now my 'grandma Jeep' which ironically is now lifted and sees 3krpm+ on a frequent basis with me behind the wheel. I drive conservatively... But to hell am I going to baby the engine and slug up to speed. And to hell am I coming to a crawl for every turn I take, that just wastes gas. If I'm squealing the tires, im taking things a little too far.
Nope nope, I am consistently hitting 3000K+ rpms on a daily basis. You HAVE to hit those kind of rpms with the 4.0 to go ANYWHERE around here.

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Ps to anyone curious the WJ with the 247 does NOT like to lose traction on dry pavement. While limit testing with my new suspension geometry I was able to bust the front end loose into an under steer and it was very scary because the second i lost traction in the rear it started engaging the front which made for major understeer. The coils and shocks hold the Jeep nice and steady but the sheer feeling of that much momentum going into a turn on an SUV with offroad suspension will give a weird feel. Can't believe it but the factory suspension was A LOT worse in this regard. In other news, my XJ having the 231 is quite tail happy because of the lack of weight.
242 swap... GO. The XJ weight like 2000 pounds less!!

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I have seen his videos along with Ken Brock who drifts the all wheel drive Fiesta.
I believe you mean Ken Block man, awsome drifter, but he couldnt keep up with the guys in WRC, ha ha ha, its easy when you can try like 1000000000 times, film, cut, and have like 10 cars and 100 tires if you **** up something. In real Rally or life you only got one shot.

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I believe you mean Ken Block man, awsome drifter, but he couldnt keep up with the guys in WRC, ha ha ha, its easy when you can try like 1000000000 times, film, cut, and have like 10 cars and 100 tires if you **** up something. In real Rally or life you only got one shot.
Ahh you are right it is Ken Block. He had some cool stunts from the videos that I have seen. But, you are right lol, he gets many more tries to get it right! I do not follow World Rally but is Ken Block a part of it?

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I believe you mean Ken Block man, awsome drifter, but he couldnt keep up with the guys in WRC, ha ha ha, its easy when you can try like 1000000000 times, film, cut, and have like 10 cars and 100 tires if you **** up something. In real Rally or life you only got one shot.
Except he actually races in WRC for Monster and Ford. He's raced in Rally America for a good while. He doesn't just show off in videos for fun...

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I believe you mean Ken Block man, awsome drifter, but he couldnt keep up with the guys in WRC, ha ha ha, its easy when you can try like 1000000000 times, film, cut, and have like 10 cars and 100 tires if you **** up something. In real Rally or life you only got one shot.
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Except he actually races in WRC for Monster and Ford. He's raced in Rally America for a good while. He doesn't just show off in videos for fun...
Lol derp!

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Except he actually races in WRC for Monster and Ford. He's raced in Rally America for a good while. He doesn't just show off in videos for fun...
I know he raced in rally America before, also that he did some WRC races with no good luck about 1or 2 years ago, i havent been following the last session of WRC, my bad.
But over here he is most famous for drifting/show of stunts.

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Took these for fun today.
Slight uphill in the second video

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Dude! I might be getting another xj! On 35's

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Dude! I might be getting another xj! On 35's
If I wanted another XJ I'd want one thats owned by some grandma and had ~100k miles on it... stock... a nice foundation... never been wheeled

In other news michael your pics look nice... wait for a couple of weeks and then detailed pics of mine will start popping up although I did wash mine on saturday and she's pretty clean right now

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Id love a stock one, but can't pass a good deal up when you see one. Plus I can bring my daughter with me more easily in a 4 door than I can my truck

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Dude! I might be getting another xj! On 35's
Do you have any pictures?

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If I wanted another XJ I'd want one thats owned by some grandma and had ~100k miles on it... stock... a nice foundation... never been wheeled
Mostly done does save some work! Ups and downs

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In other news michael your pics look nice... wait for a couple of weeks and then detailed pics of mine will start popping up although I did wash mine on saturday and she's pretty clean right now
Thanks man! Knowing VA it is going to rain with in the next day because I washed it! Look forward to it!

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I have one from the add but I'm gonna have him send some pics to my cell tomorrow

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