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Unread 04-04-2010, 01:14 PM   #121
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Hahaha well I personally have mastered the skill of getting in. Its more like a good hop, and duck the head so you dont hit the ceiling. Now watching other people get in is quit amusing haha. I am 6'0 and I have to hop pretty good. When I got back in my Jeep after flexing it up I had to have a co-worker hold the door open so I could climb it like a jungle gym lol.


Update, before work on this lovely easter morning I went down to the laser cutter and picked up my bumper parts.
lol i figured it involved jumping. with my height i still struggle sometimes getting into my buddies 4" lifted TJ on 33s. but i am recovering from hip surgery so i use that as an excuse hahaha

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[QUOTE=rritch;10960201]plastic + Fuel + Ignition = "Bubba wake up this is gonna be good" :rofl:[/QUOTE]


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Unread 04-04-2010, 01:39 PM   #122
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lol i figured it involved jumping. with my height i still struggle sometimes getting into my buddies 4" lifted TJ on 33s. but i am recovering from hip surgery so i use that as an excuse hahaha
No way me too! What kind of hip surgery did you have?

To stay on topic, how much did you pay for the steel and cutting?
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Unread 04-04-2010, 01:48 PM   #123
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No way me too! What kind of hip surgery did you have?

To stay on topic, how much did you pay for the steel and cutting?
$128.xx for everything. I had to dimension and re-arrange the original file though so it was not as easy as just submitting the original downloaded file.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 02:01 PM   #124
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Yeah I was reading up on it and I was expecting to have to do that. That's not a bad price at all.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 02:08 PM   #125
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Jfox21. pm'ing you dont wanna chatter up his thread. Redhat... where would one go to have metal laser cut
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Unread 04-04-2010, 02:11 PM   #126
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Jfox21. pm'ing you dont wanna chatter up his thread. Redhat... where would one go to have metal laser cut
just go to yellow pages and search for cnc, waterjetting, laser cutting, plasma cutting, as long as its on a cnc its going to be wayy more acurate than doing it by hand and a lot faster. out of the three options, plasma is the least smooth, then laser, and waterjet being the best. Even at that, they all far exceed doing it by hand, and we are not talking about really tight tolerances so its okay.
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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:07 PM   #127
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Here is more on the slider mounting style.





So to pick up where I left off. After wheeling in Dresser, WI I decided I wanted more flex. So I did the IRO Front Long Arm upgrade, for $599.99 it seemed pretty logical, get some new arms and a HD Crossmember, and I would be set for a while. The addition of the front LA's was an amazing difference. On the road most bumps you feel are absorbed by the front end, so if you are choosing the front or rear, do the front. Its cheaper, easier to install, and makes the biggest difference. It has the floating on a cloud effect now instead of the driving over constant speedbumps.
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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:09 PM   #128
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At the same time I put the long arms on, there was another problem. I needed longer shocks to get the most out of my down travel, I also needed extended brake lines, stock ones would not cut it anymore.

Front Subframe mounting. (Imagine the skidplate and V8 not in yet lol)



Long Arms, and the Iron Y link.

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:14 PM   #129
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Before the next trip came (Apple Valley Farms) I wanted to have some sort of steering. I did not like how I could kick my 4.0 steering and the tierod would just wobble. Although I could have easily just bought the IRO HD Tie-rod for less than $70, I chose to do the entire OTK Steering system because I liked the idea of having a wheel to wheel tie rod, and a separate drag link. I added a brand new Steering stabilizer aswell. I then converted the IRO HD front Adj trackbar I had to a Double shear. I say converted because I had the tie-rod end style one. IRO makes a conversion that uses the same M22 left hand threads, so you keep the trackbar, and just pay for a new bracket, male TB end, and bushings.

I had a custom driveshaft made for it due to the stock one not being long enough. The CV front shaft was roached, so I got a new one made, and put a D30 ujoint yoke on there as opposed to the CV yoke.







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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:20 PM   #130
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I quickly noticed how bad a roached 249 was with the 35's. I went to the junkyard and picked up a 242 out of a 1996 Laredo. Direct bolt up I replaced both the trans output seal, and the tcase input seal at the same time.
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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:24 PM   #131
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We then wheeled in Apple Valley Farms over in WI, and had a blast. The terrain was pretty much all hill climbs and hill downs with big rocks and logs in your way, in other words hit it hard, hit it fast, and dont let off the gas until you reach the top.

Before the end of the summer trip which was up in Gilbert, MN (Iron Rock Off Road hosted a customer appreciation event) I wanted to go all out, I needed rear long arms.

I once again, did the long arm upgrade but for the rear. For $999 it seems a bit expensive, but there are 4 new LA's, and one BA subframe. At the same time I installed new shocks for the rear to allow the suspension to show it all off.





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5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:28 PM   #132
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Gilbert, MN. Summer of 2009, Iron Rock Off Road's Customer Appreciation Event.













Apparently my buddy grant liked my jeep?


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"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:31 PM   #133
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Darrick in his WJ





Stock Cherokee got stuck..... A good example of why open differentials SUCK



I climbed the tree and some crazy dude tried to shake me out.

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"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:34 PM   #134
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Thats right, go away.... Time for the IRO ZJ to go up.






Me and my buddy Luke (Also works at IRO)



Our group



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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 04-04-2010, 08:37 PM   #135
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Time to head in for the night, back at camp.







Washer fluid coming out.... once again due to the steep inclines of the MN terrain.




Out to wheel for the last day, this was in the playground, not on a trail.



What a good time to change the oil!!!!

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"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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