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Unread 05-19-2012, 12:40 PM   #256
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I think I am going to dyno the niner on sunday.... Any predictions for what it will score? Here are the stock specs.

Performance
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 7.1 sec. Braking Distance: 135 ft.
Road Holding Index: .75 g Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 5.9 liters Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 245 hp Max Horsepower: 4000 rpm
Torque: 345 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 3200 rpm

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5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 05-19-2012, 02:11 PM   #257
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Wait stock 5.9 ZJs only have 245hp? I thought it was more than that
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Unread 05-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #258
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Wait stock 5.9 ZJs only have 245hp? I thought it was more than that
x2. I did some research when I blew my 5.2 up. Wasnt worth doing a 5.9 swap for that.
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Unread 05-20-2012, 10:31 PM   #259
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I was just curious seeing as my 4.7 in my dakota stock makes 265hp. I thought the 5.9s made around 280hp.
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Unread 05-21-2012, 08:30 PM   #260
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Lets see Grants dakota vs. Pats niner
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Unread 05-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #261
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Lets see Grants dakota vs. Pats niner
Honestly they are probably about the same. But also remember mine has a few hundred extra pounds with the cross members, suv body style, winch, bumper, steel wheels, 35" tires..... I'll still smoke him
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I am now a dealer for Iron Rock Off Road
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"Project Dirty Princess"
5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Originally Posted by CMARJEEP View Post
Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 05-27-2012, 11:36 PM   #262
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Honestly they are probably about the same. But also remember mine has a few hundred extra pounds with the cross members, suv body style, winch, bumper, steel wheels, 35" tires..... I'll still smoke him
"SUV body style" LOL thats one I have had yet to hear..

"Haha dude I totally smoked you!"

"Hey man, you have a pick up, mine is the SUV body style, thats why."

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Unread 05-29-2012, 01:11 AM   #263
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$120 shipped if anyone is interested. 5.9 side skirts, could use a touch up paint job as they have scratches


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I am now a dealer for Iron Rock Off Road
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"Project Dirty Princess"
5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #264
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So I bought a home made steering box brace on the forums a while back from a fellow member that was making them. It all bolted up nice, however it was unable to bolt in on top of my factory sway bar bushings. For the time being when I installed it, I put it under the stock sway bar. With this creating a gap, this caused the bushings to wear extra fast, and eventually they had slop in them and would clunk.



Soooo..... I bought a new set of aftermarket bushings, which are greasable, and have thinner brackets. The OEM replacement (Moog Brand) ones were only like $15 from the parts store, but these were only around $20 so I picked these up instead. Thinner bracket, and greasable.




I did my necessary trimming on the steering box brace, and wala, 15 minutes later, all bolted back up properly!

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5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 06-06-2012, 11:22 PM   #265
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I've got that same steering box brace... I bought the same bushings too but I got my bar to go on underneath the bracket... You think it's better to have it the way yours is?
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Unread 06-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #266
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I saw that as quite the design flaw from the very beginning. I pm'd him a while back about getting a brace made utilizing both holes instead of just the one on each side, he seemed agreeable to the change but I suppose we both ended up dropping the ball on making/buying one. good little fix though Pat
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Unread 06-07-2012, 05:22 PM   #267
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I've got that same steering box brace... I bought the same bushings too but I got my bar to go on underneath the bracket... You think it's better to have it the way yours is?
Yeah I am 100% sure my solution is the best route, aside from what was just suggested. The problem with how I had it, and how you have it currently is that the bushing has room to move. Plain and simple, if its a "sloppy" fit, the bushing will wear out much faster. Not that I didn't know that before, but I was just in a rush to get it on and forgot to do something about it.

I am now looking into doing a hydro assist setup, I think the next wheeling event I will be attending (and the first for the niner) will be late july. Hopefully I will be able to go to that one (in wisconsin) and also I hope to make it up to the iron range for Iron Rock's customer appreciation event that we hold every year. Unfortunately I usually am about two weeks into starting the school year when we host it, which kinda sucks to try and make.

Has anyone done hydro assist on their rigs? How did you set it up? On all of the ones I have setup, the front axles have had over the axle trusses so that made it easier to mount. I also set one up on our shop zj (black ZJ on the website banner) and made a little bracket to weld onto the stock brackets by the factory stabilizer mount..... needless to say, the bracket held up, but all of the factory brackets ripped off of the axle during wheeling. haha! So from there on, we have always went off the trusses.

The rear bumper hasn't been getting too much attention, but it is still in the works. I am still playing around with those designs, along with ideas on how to move my coils around in the rear so they stick straight up and down. The only issue now is that on the passenger side, the factory trackbar mount is in the way.
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I am now a dealer for Iron Rock Off Road
I offer the same great products you already know about,
the same low prices you have been seeing, and with
the same experienced customer support, but I can offer it nearly 24/7

"Project Dirty Princess"
5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

Quote:
Originally Posted by CMARJEEP View Post
Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 06-07-2012, 06:35 PM   #268
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Messing around in cad again!



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I am now a dealer for Iron Rock Off Road
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"Project Dirty Princess"
5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Originally Posted by CMARJEEP View Post
Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 07:04 PM   #269
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Grant and I made yet another prototype bumper, I don't like the look of it so I think it will be back to the drawing board.

I am looking into ordering kits for my hydro assist steering as we speak, however I still need a good place to mount it. The next wheeling trip planned is July 28th weekend as of now.

Does anyone know any good online surplus stores for hydraulic supplies?
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I am now a dealer for Iron Rock Off Road
I offer the same great products you already know about,
the same low prices you have been seeing, and with
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"Project Dirty Princess"
5.9 ZJ 7" IRO, 35s, 8.8, hp30, locked, blah blah

"Project Grow A Set"

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Those tires look freakin awesome Redhat... took the ZJ up a notch in my book. Now you're at notch 2.
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Unread 06-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #270
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Oh man I thought you were gonna post those pictures haha not sure if I would wanna see them haha
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