I have a 2003 WJ Limited 4.7 HO with 75,000 miles, bone stock right now (except de-badged)...
This is my daily driver and going to be more of an expedition rig than a rock crawler. I've got an XJ sitting at 4.5" right now that grew piece-by-piece and started as a budget boost... I wanted to do the WJ different and get good components right from day one.
I just ordered most everything for Phase 1 below. I'd like some feedback as to if I missed anything, and there are a couple questions at the end. Thanks!
Exhaust (mainly from kolak, have someone local weld up everything):
Section of 3" mid pipe, Magnaflow high flow 3" converter, Flowmaster 50 Delta Flow muffler (3" center inlet/offset outlet), 3" turn-down tip
Wheels/Tires - to be decided this week. Will probably go with 33x11ish on 16's, or maybe keep the stock 17's and get spacers to save some money for right now.
Mine being and 03 has a double-cardan style front shaft already, so shouldn't need to change that right now.
------ Questions ------
1 - Do I need a drop pitman arm & what size drop? 1"?
2 - Does anyone make a over-the-knuckle kit like IRO's, BUT that uses TRE's? I feel like the heim's would increase the chance of death-wobble and/or loose steering feeling... am I right on that?
3 - Do I need longer brake lines?
4 - What am I forgetting?
------ Phase 2 (at least another year or more away) ------
Swap in a 242HD and new rear DS
New gearing & something with axles... if I can find an aussie for the rear I may keep it and just truss the axles and ox lock the front perhaps... or who knows... maybe new JK axles all around one day
Custom rack and bumpers / tire carrier
Also wanted to say that Nick and Kolak Performance (firstname.lastname@example.org) gave me some great deals and I definately recomend him.
------------------- CURRENT --------------------
35's, 6", JK Rubicon Dana 44's with OEM electric lockers, 5:13 gears, RCV front/Superior Alloy rear axles
Last edited by theksmith; 04-14-2009 at 09:32 AM..
Very nice "phase one"! That's about phase 1344560 for most of the people on here. I agree to send the teraflex extensions back, as they are worthless with anything more than a BB. No you don't need a drop pitman arm. You can put together your own over the knuckle steering: http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum//showthread.php?t=7615
Sounds like a really nice build. I'd suggest going with 15" or 16" steelies instead of keeping 17s and running spacers.
__________________ 2000 WJ Laredo 4.7 NP242
3" Lift, 31" MT/Rs, Aussie Locked D44A, JKS sliders, more
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0) I agree with TX-WJ - you need longer then 2" extensions, I would say 4" extensions for 33" tires at a minimum.
1) No, don't get a drop pitman arm.
2) There is a home made style you can do. Check it out here: http://www.mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7615
3) No you don't. Since on a WJ the brake lines follow the control arms and don't drop down, adding lift doesn't strech them out at all.
4) Looks pretty good otherwise.
I still haven't gotten any parts yet, but I did order more! Someone over on mall crawlin is wanting to go 37's with his dub, so I'm picking up his 2000 WJ axles - Front Dana 30 with ARB and 4.56 gears, and rear 44HD with Aussie and 4.56's, Powerslot rotors front and rear. Supposedly did master install kit when gears/lockers where done and that was only 10k miles ago. He's supposed to get them palleted and shipped by monday... I'm excited as I didn't expect to be getting gears, much less lockers, for quite a while.
UPDATE after lift install 6-29-08:
the computer says i am now averaging 12.5mpg, which i calculate would really be 14.1mpg if the computer was adjusted for the new tires. before tires and lift, i averaged 16mpg, so it looks like just the change in weight and aerodynamics has lost me 2mpg!!
Last edited by theksmith; 04-14-2009 at 10:17 PM..
So it's been forever, but the clayton kit is finally installed. I had backorder problems with Clayton, RE, and shipping issues with JKS... then since I missed my first install date, it took a while to get another.
I had Absolute Offroad here in Phoenix do the install (i can't weld for ****). They did a decent job... I'm sure most anyone would be very happy with them... me, however, being a perfectionist would have liked to seen a little more attention-to-detail on the cut-off of the old mounts, and a couple of the welds could be prettier... most are nice though. As always, Joe over there was very personable and gave me a price that I can't argue with... so I'm sure I'll continue to use them.
I had them do the Clayton kit, and the springs/shocks/trackbar too... seem to make sense to do all that at once. I still have trimming, bumpstops, exhaust, rock rails, t-case skid, etc., to do myself now.