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post #571 of 723 Old 06-03-2013, 05:21 PM
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Yep yep!

Here's what my radiator looked like right before the swap


And the old 545RFE trans pan. From everything I've read and experienced, the glue that holds the clutches within automatic transmissions together is water soluble. So water destroys them



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post #572 of 723 Old 06-03-2013, 05:58 PM
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That is some nasty looking pepto bismol.

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post #573 of 723 Old 06-03-2013, 07:27 PM
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Yep yep!

Here's what my radiator looked like right before the swap

And the old 545RFE trans pan. From everything I've read and experienced, the glue that holds the clutches within automatic transmissions together is water soluble. So water destroys them
That is a Jeep Engineered failure to make sure the consumer is giving mechanics sum lovin later on in the life of the vehicle.

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Filled the shocks with nitrogen today. Rides way better. Stiffer on all around driving and cornering. Raised it about an inch or so. Noticeable from my point of view.



Quick picture at work. Measured 45" from ground to fender in the front and 44" ground to fender in the rear.

Now I need to cut up the rockers and get some good clearance like Greg's. I also picked up a 41 tooth speedo gear I'll be wiring up within the next couple days. We will see how close it is. It should be close according to a tj spec. Used the gear chart just to hopefully get close.

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Filled the shocks with nitrogen today. Rides way better. Stiffer on all around driving and cornering. Raised it about an inch or so. Noticeable from my point of view.

Quick picture at work. Measured 45" from ground to fender in the front and 44" ground to fender in the rear.

Now I need to cut up the rockers and get some good clearance like Greg's. I also picked up a 41 tooth speedo gear I'll be wiring up within the next couple days. We will see how close it is. It should be close according to a tj spec. Used the gear chart just to hopefully get close.
Tecksmith used a cool little inline calibrator to make the final adjustments - $80 bucks or so

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post #576 of 723 Old 06-05-2013, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
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I can use the 41 tooth gear and see how far it is off. And adjust accordingly to it being to fast or too slow by getting a different speed gear with less or more teeth.

I haven't found anyone with the same combo I have to base the correct teeth off of.

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I can use the 41 tooth gear and see how far it is off. And adjust accordingly to it being to fast or too slow by getting a different speed gear with less or more teeth.

I haven't found anyone with the same combo I have to base the correct teeth off of.
You used a 231 right ? Grey goose and another from Illinois both used 231s since the drive shaft will be spinning 3 times faster with those gears you are going to need an electronic calibrator defiantly. Other folks just dealt with it being off.

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You used a 231 right ? Grey goose and another from Illinois both used 231s since the drive shaft will be spinning 3 times faster with those gears you are going to need an electronic calibrator defiantly. Other folks just dealt with it being off.

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Depends on how you do the speed sender. The different speedo gear is what adjusts the signal on the TJ style speed sensor.

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Yes a 231. The different tooth gears send different signals to the PCM (in my case the abs module). More teeth will show a faster speed. No need to buy that Dakota speed calibrator when a different tooth gear does the same thing.

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Depends on how you do the speed sender. The different speedo gear is what adjusts the signal on the TJ style speed sensor.


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Yes a 231. The different tooth gears send different signals to the PCM (in my case the abs module). More teeth will show a faster speed. No need to buy that Dakota speed calibrator when a different tooth gear does the same thing.
Yes but remember that your output shaft is spinning 5x per one revolution of the axle shaft. Since the wj takes the reading off the tone ring of the axle shaft and not the driveshaft you will not be able to compensate teeth to make up the difference. 5.13:1 vs 3.73:1 stock

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Yes but remember that your output shaft is spinning 5x per one revolution of the axle shaft. Since the wj takes the reading off the tone ring of the axle shaft and not the driveshaft you will not be able to compensate teeth to make up the difference. 5.13:1 vs 3.73:1 stock

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I'll be curious to see how the speed reads. The WJ does reed off the axle shafts, with 43 or 48 teeth on it. I don't know the actual gear reduction within the teeth of the transfer case output. It could be way off or it could be close. Just comes down to how many pulses the computer gets per revolution

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I get what you're saying, but I don't think its a 1-1 relationship. I may be mistaken though, but I think the guys on mallcrawlin were able to use the same tooth gears as TJs to get the right speed.

Maybe I'm wrong though. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

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OK, followed the thread to wire the speedo, still not working.

Speed sensor in with 41 tooth gear.



Orange to black
And white/orange to brown



And connected terminal 3 and 5 at the cab harness.
White/orange to green.



And still no signal.
From ground to orange I'm getting 5v
And ground to white/orange I'm getting 12v
And this is just key on not moving.

Where am I going wrong?

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I think the thread mentioned some of the colors may be different depending on year.

Did you ground the vss?

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http://mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthr...uirement/page2

According to this, it should be working.

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