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Unread 11-21-2013, 04:17 PM   #16
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Did the HO's come with a bigger exhaust system vs the non ho? If not will the 3" exhaust affect the back pressure being the motor its self is stock? And congrats on the new Jeep looks real clean i really like the interior combo!
I am not 100% sure but i believe they both got the same 2.5" exhaust system, my old lo put did breathe much better when exhaust was opened up.

Thx, i really enjoy it myself, its a very Nice Jeep once i got issues sorted out, rides like a dream, pull like a wild horse

Edit: special HO spark plugs, WIX Transmission filter kit, and WIX fuel filter ordered for upcoming Tune up/service, also got a 12 pack Mopar ATF+4 for cheap on ebay.
Engine oil and filter, diff and transfer fluid i got in my Garage

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Unread 11-21-2013, 07:51 PM   #17
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My bet is the AZ codes come back. I cleared mine and they went away only to come back in a day or two. Sounds like you may have the same thing I have going on. A "hissing" sound coming from the dash? Mine almost sounds like a slight ping but it isn't. Can't hear it at all with the window down. Seems to happen when the AZ is changing zones. I think it's the sound of the shaft spinning in the blend door for my driver's side. Pretty easy for me to know it isn't working because it's blowing cold air on me when the rest of the vents are blowing hot and it's cold outside. I also have a recirculation door failure too. I have the parts to fix it now it's just a matter of finding the time to rip the dash apart to replace the parts.
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Unread 11-22-2013, 02:10 AM   #18
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I am not 100% sure but i believe they both got the same 2.5" exhaust system
WJJeeps seem to indicate same exhaust as low output

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Unread 11-22-2013, 11:18 AM   #19
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More check ups and things done to the new Jeep today

-Disconected battery, rechecked codes, knock sensor and oil pressure sensor codes Are gone!!! ODO shows done Guess no need for new sensors, most likely historic codes that never have been cleared out

-Bought oil and Mighty TB clean

-Ordered a new radiator, found that its leaking at the top, idk why, but seems like its the main reason why it looses coolant, only leaks when i top off expansion tank to full, then it drops down a qt or so, and then stay there.

-Recheck Transmission fluid level, added about 0.15 more qts, up to total adding of 0.5-0.6 qts now, but now its spot on hot mark

-Checked AC codes again, 51, 54, 55 are back 51 = AI (Recirc) door travel range too small
54 = Left temperature door travel too large
55 = Right temperature door travel too small

-Engine oil and filter change,
Valvoline 5W-30 MST Synpower and WIX filter,,, Minor "lifter tick" like sound when cold started it up this morning, went away half way up to operating temp, It was cold though, -6C~21F, hopefully oil change will cure it, shouldnt be like that, been looking threw reciepts, but idk for sure what oil/weight that was put in there, so i put my favourite honey into the precious HO engine, and hope for the best

-Lubricated door locks and door seals to prevent doors and locks to freeze up,

-Found possible cause of air blowing/hissing sound (like tire air pressure release), exhaust muffler inlet leaks and rear end sure have a puncture blowing out the side, lucky i got a full 3" Kolak exhaust on its Way.
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Unread 11-22-2013, 01:00 PM   #20
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Couldnt hold my horses, so i ordered some Nice blacked out LED tail light and LED 3rd brake lights which will lighten up my *** and hopefully keep other stupid driver away from my Jeep. Will look very Nice Black on Black, the only thing i didnt liked with my last one, was the clear glass which made it possible to see reflector/chrome when light was off, so it will an upgrade

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I am not 100% sure what i am going to do with the headlights, if i should go for projector headlights, or just stay with the factory one, we will see,,,

Have to modify grill, mesh insert most likely, thinking about putting 3M Carbon fiber Vinyl on all the chrome exterior trim pieces, grill, bumber, door/side trim piece, hmmmm
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Unread 11-22-2013, 01:42 PM   #21
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Check your exhaust manifold for that "lifter tick". If it sounds more like an inconsistant rattle there's a good chance that's it. The 4.7 is known for the exhaust manifold bolts breaking.
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Unread 11-22-2013, 01:44 PM   #22
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Just realized your last one was a 4.7 too so maybe you were already familiar with that issue.
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Unread 11-22-2013, 01:50 PM   #23
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No my last one the 4.7 low Output was not ticking at all, you might have right about the exhaust manifoild bolts, it have sliped threw my mind to,i know from looking threw reciepts they did some Work on the left side manifoild some years ago due to a leak.

How bad is this, is it a must repair right away or will it eventualy ruin anything Ells?
Does it affect mpg?

Its not like a inconsistent rattle, more like a ping/tick following the rpm,,,

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Unread 11-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #24
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how about sport headlights without the chrome backs to them?
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Unread 11-22-2013, 02:46 PM   #25
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Nah, more like something like this maybe>>
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Unread 11-22-2013, 06:52 PM   #26
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Man I'm looking forward to this build! My '04 Ltd looks almost identical, color, height, and pretty much everything on the outside aside from the overland badge and parts and mine has factory rims (see my profile).

I like the rims mine has, but I REALLY like the rims your new one has. I'm not one for aftermarket rims personally unless they really serve a purpose and to be honest my WJ will never see a really rough trail any more than 20 miles from my house so what I have is good enough for me aside from a 2-3" lift and some new tires.
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Unread 11-23-2013, 01:49 AM   #27
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Thx man, sure enjoy beeing back in a WJ, rides like a dream, once i got all the repairs and issues needed Fixed it will be a very Nice Jeep. I will try to be as effective as possible, but will need too make some priorities, lots of mods and upgrades needed, so where to start.

Here is my Work list,
All fluid and maintainance,
All repairs and fixes needed,
Exhaust and tuner,
Lift and tires,
Lights and more gadgets exterior,
Alarm/remote start,
Stereo and sound dampening,

So stay tuned, lots of Good Work coming up
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Unread 11-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #28
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New day, need some things off the todo list, but my friend with the shop was busy with JeepKIDO fotball turnament, and its about freezing cold outside, -4C/25F, but no excuse for a Jeeper, some Jeep Work needs to be done to make it a good day

-Checked tire air pressure, they where a little low, and uneven, got them all up to 34psi, thats what those Nokian's like, felt better while cruis'n.

It have alittle uneven and a tad high idle ~800rpm and small dips, engine have minor "shakes".
Sounds like time for a Throttle body cleaning!!! So heres the trick, ran her warm and then dissasemblied the TB, and brought it back home into my bathroom floor, for more comfort.

IF guys Wonder if TB/intake clean is ever needed??? look at this!!!>>>



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Huge amount of Carbon buildt up at idle air control plunge,


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Sticky Black gunk on all the inside of throttle plate, IAC and vacum port, more than i ever had in my other TB's.



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I prefer to use old rag and some cotton stick to Get into all corners and tight spaces,
Mighty Throttle cleaner sure did great, highly recomendeble.



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HOLLY THROTTLE BODY, WOW THAT GOT CLEAN AND SHINY


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Also cleaned out as much as i could of the intake



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Everything back together again


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Throttle response feels much more agressive/responsive, and idle more evenly, no dips, still a tad high 700~800ish, but engine runs very smooth and without "shackes".

My next move will be change sparkplugs and fix exhaust leak to get it running correct, but getting there step by step

New/old wiper blades, feels better That Way, the Thin small ones That came on the Jeep was to gay, lol



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That it for today folks,
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Unread 11-23-2013, 12:24 PM   #29
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Just one more thingy,,,
Smoked Projector headlights with CCFL also put on order, Jeep bug hits hard, lol

Think These will look good>>>
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Unread 11-24-2013, 07:22 AM   #30
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Lazy day today, but had to change to Winter wheels on my moms car, so while at it, despite -4C/25F, i atleast did some small things.

-Removed licence plate bracket, wow that thing was ugly,
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Looks much better with plates right on the bumber
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-Attempt to do a fluid change on the transfer, but fill plug was "stuck"
So i didnt want to F up like last time, will do it later when i have better tools, heat, whatever needed.

-While under there, had another look at the exhaust, clearly a crack in the rear, and in the front of the muffler, where is my Kolak exhaust!!!?
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