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Unread 04-14-2010, 02:31 PM   #1
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Well, here's my build thread. For now, it's going to be mostly interior work until I get some cash to work on the suspension. I recently replaced the rear carpet; there will no pictures of that for now as it's just a newer looking stock carpet. I'm working on the stereo right now. There will be pictures coming for that. I did get the PAC-SWI JACK to keep my steering wheel controls. I'll get pictures of exactly which wire is used to make that work properly. Also, working with the Infinity Gold amp with an aftermarket HU can be rather difficult. There's nothing on here that easily shows how to get the HU to turn the amp on for a ZJ so I'll show some pics and let you know exactly how I accomplished that. I'm still working on it for now, well sort of anyways. I had to call it quits for the day because I have class right now... . This goes to show how much I pay attention. This probably isn't the type of build thread you all want to know about, but car audio is one of my biggest passions. I figured I'd share my endeavor with you.

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Unread 04-15-2010, 09:11 PM   #2
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Okay, here's some pictures of what I've done so far. First, the wire that I'm showing is the black/orange wire in the harness directly on the bottom of the steering column. This wire is the one you cut to use a PAC adapter to interface the steering wheel controls on any Jeep up through 1998. The second picture shows the harness plugged in to where it belongs. The third picture is a finished head unit install. Before I post the pictures I want to let you know what I did with the steering wheel controls and a couple of other things that I couldn't find doing searches on here, or anywhere for that matter. First, the buttons on the left side are now the volume controls instead of the ones on the right. I did this so I could set the middle button as a mute button and have complete volume control from my left hand. The mute will come in handy once I finish my system. The controls on the right are track up and down. (The PAC adapter will let you choose what the buttons do so if you want to keep them the way they are, you can.) The VIC does still work with an aftermarket HU. The clock is no longer contolled by the HU but is set by the VIC itself. Lastly, to get the Infinity Gold amp to turn on with the aftermarket HU, you have to wire the HU's remote turn on to the wiring harness' power antenna lead. These are all things I saw a lot of questions about but no one had any answers to them. Here are the answers. Anyways, on to the pics.





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Unread 04-15-2010, 09:20 PM   #3
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so we have almost the same last name, jeep, and stereo...

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Unread 04-15-2010, 11:11 PM   #4
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You've got a 9855? I love that HU. I bought it brand new in '05 for my Caprice. I've since then upgraded to a Pioneer Premier 800 PRS for that and have been saving this one for a new build. The Jeep is a very deserving vehicle for a decent system. I'm going to have more pics to come over the next couple of weeks as I hopefully finish this build. I've already got everything I'm going to be putting in, I just need the time to actually do it.
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Unread 04-16-2010, 08:45 AM   #5
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You've got a 9855? I love that HU. I bought it brand new in '05 for my Caprice. I've since then upgraded to a Pioneer Premier 800 PRS for that and have been saving this one for a new build. The Jeep is a very deserving vehicle for a decent system. I'm going to have more pics to come over the next couple of weeks as I hopefully finish this build. I've already got everything I'm going to be putting in, I just need the time to actually do it.
Well.. like I said, almost. I have a CDE-9852. With 2 12" Kicker CVR's and a Kicker ZX750. The stereo is more than just half decent in my Jeep and sounds incredible. I just need to find some tweeters because mine are starting to go.

Btw, you can't have that amp power wire running from the power antenna wire, because it'll only power the amp when you turn on the radio. There should be an amplifier wire somewhere, and if you cannot find it, tap it into the accessory wire. It's the same thing.
You have steering wheel stereo controls? Mind taking a picture of the steering wheel? I've never seen those in a ZJ.
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Unread 04-16-2010, 11:30 AM   #6
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I can definitely take a picture of the steering wheel controls for you to see. They're on the back side of the steering wheel. I'll get them up by Monday for you. As far as the amp goes, I've got the remote turn on from the head unit connected to the antenna wire on the wiring harness for the Jeep. According to Crutchfield, that's how you have to do it. The amp stays on as long as my HU is on. It doesn't matter what source. Basically, if you have the Infinity Gold and no power antenna, that's how you have to hook it up. Having a factory power antenna would probably add a whole other mess of problems for you, assuming you'd want to keep the factory amp in there. I'm going to be replacing that with a 2 channel amp and a new front stage eventually. Like I said before on that, I've got everything I need to do everything I want to do, I just need the time to actually do it.
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Unread 04-19-2010, 07:49 AM   #7
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Here's the pictures I promised of the steering wheel controls. The passenger side of the steering wheel used to be the volume control. These are now the track/seek buttons. The driver side was the track/seek/p. scan (the button in the middle). That's now volume and the button in the middle is mute. Like I said before, with the PAC adapter, these can be programmed to do almost any feature on the radio. On to the pictures....

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Driver side:

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Unread 05-22-2010, 09:54 PM   #8
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Well, here's the finished build...

Getting the amps, crossovers, and some wiring ready:



Drilling for the power wire:


Running the power wire, loomed and sealed with silicone:


Door speakers (Pioneer Premier TS-D520C):



I used the factory tweeter grilles to mount the Pioneer tweeters in the factory locations. This required a bunch of dremel work:


Finished install:



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Unread 05-22-2010, 09:56 PM   #9
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Also, to run the wire into the doors, I basically ran new wire up to the molex at the doors, cut the wiring for the speakers, and then tapped into that. The wiring for the tweeters runs all the way up into the dash. A lot of the wiring takes you through some pretty tight situations.
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Unread 05-24-2010, 09:20 AM   #10
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Specs on that build:

1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee TSi
Alpine CDA-9855
Kicker ZX-200.2
Alpine MRD-M605
Alpine Amp Link for the 605
Pioneer Premier TS-D520C
Alpine Type X 1043D
1.3 cubes net @ 29 Hz
Rockford Fosgate wiring
Kicker Battery terminals (of which I didn't post any pics)

I spent a total of $440 on this stuff. I'm not counting stuff that I traded that I had sitting around that wasn't getting used or stuff that I had sitting around that I did use in the build. Not too shabby for a budget build.
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Unread 05-24-2010, 11:01 AM   #11
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Cool dude. I didn't know there was a way to still use the wheel controls. I'm trying to figure out if my pioneer HU is compatible with one of those, but I can't tell if it has the wired remote control input.
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Unread 05-24-2010, 05:57 PM   #12
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You'll need a PAC SWI-PS for the Pioneer. It's pretty easy to use and program.
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Unread 05-24-2010, 08:09 PM   #13
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For some healthier info, try and mount the amps onto the back of the seats. It's somewhat bad for the amps to be mounted on the back of the box because everything internal of the amps vibrate and isn't too healthy for them. And what the hell...pioneer speakers/tweeters, and kicker amp, same what I have..again lmao
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Unread 05-24-2010, 09:06 PM   #14
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LOL. I have Pioneer Premier comps in my car and I really like them a lot so I bought a set for the Jeep. They're not the same set, but they're almost as good as what I've got in my car. I've had that Alpine 605 forever sitting around and the Kicker I picked up for a killer deal. I would have mounted them to the back of the seats, but they didn't feel too sturdy on there. I figure the amps are going to vibrate regardless of where I put them if they're going to be that close to the box. That box is pretty solid though. It doesn't really vibrate too much, although that Type X is a pretty serious 10" .
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Unread 05-24-2010, 09:23 PM   #15
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LOL. I have Pioneer Premier comps in my car and I really like them a lot so I bought a set for the Jeep. They're not the same set, but they're almost as good as what I've got in my car. I've had that Alpine 605 forever sitting around and the Kicker I picked up for a killer deal. I would have mounted them to the back of the seats, but they didn't feel too sturdy on there. I figure the amps are going to vibrate regardless of where I put them if they're going to be that close to the box. That box is pretty solid though. It doesn't really vibrate too much, although that Type X is a pretty serious 10" .
You are correct about getting vibrations regardless of the location mounted, but you're going to be getting the most vibrations if its mounted up onto the box. With it screwed in there, its a solid connection with the vibrations. Just giving you some tips.
Hope to see some more mods in the future. good luck!
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