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Unread 07-02-2013, 04:59 PM   #1
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Double Triangulated Question.

So I was under my Jeep looking for LA mounting possibilities, and realized that there aren't a lot. I notice on Claytons kit, the LCAs run basically straight from frame bracket to axle mount. The uppers are triangulated, but I am wondering if anyone has found a way to do this with the lowers? It seems like it would help with any lateral axle movement, and I'm sure others things like roll axis and stuff. First thought was a rear crossmember, but the distance between "frame" rails is pretty wide, seems wider then where the TC/trans crossmember is, and am not sure if this would be possible for strength reasons. Anyway, just wondering if anyone has been able to do this, I have searched quite a bit and haven't come up with anything.

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Unread 07-02-2013, 05:15 PM   #2
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If you're talking the rear arms, Clayton's lowers don't run straight from the frame, they angle out.
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So are the brackets mounted on the inside of the frame? Do you happen to know what degree angle it is? I looked at yours and it looked straight, but it must have just been the angle of the picture or something, thanks for clearing that up.
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Not sure on the degree, here is a better angle, compare them to the fronts which do run in line with the frame.

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Unread 07-02-2013, 05:43 PM   #5
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That is like the exact picture I have been searching for high and low haha, thanks a lot man! I was just looking at the install insturctions, and it looks like its an 80* angle perpendicular to the frame rail, just FYI.
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Unread 07-02-2013, 08:46 PM   #6
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Double triangluated 4 link will increase the roll axis, generally.

A single triangulated upper is pretty easy cuz you don't need to fab a rear cross member.

If you aren't making it a dedicated trail rig, single tri should do you well.
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TNT customs made a double tri rear for WJ's a while ago. I saw one in person at GSW this year and it looked well built. I talked with the guy who had it and he said his jeep was the TNT test rig for the kit. He said they don't promote selling it, but if you called them they could probably sell it again.
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Unread 07-02-2013, 10:55 PM   #8
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That's interesting, did you get a look at the mounting brackets by any chance?
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it looked a lot like the stock crossmember actually.
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Unread 07-02-2013, 11:39 PM   #10
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Hmm, interesting. Just been diving into the suspension sea lately, reading all I can. I just had NO idea how in depth and complex these setups can be, and all the different variables (roll axis/center, COG, anti squat, pinion/caster angles), and how the simplest little changes can change everything. But after seeing DJdillon's picture, and getting the general consensus from The Suspension Thread, it seems like the biggest thing to worry about is, where and how this stuff will actually fit lol.
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