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Unread 02-21-2014, 10:55 AM   #1
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Do NOT use this gasoline

First time I had ever heard of this, I just got this in an email.
The GD global warming cult is at it again. As if raising food prices wasn't bad enough.

"For your information Harley-Davidson Motorcycles says that this fuel burns so much hotter then regular or high test gasoline that the air cooled engines may seriously overheat and destroy the engine. If you like your car, please watch this short video. It's the real deal! I'm not sure how the EPA could okay something like this..... Watch video about E15 gas if you have a car older than 2012 AND IT IS NOT FLEX FUEL RATED."


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Unread 02-21-2014, 11:04 AM   #2
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Unless something recently changed, the US Government voted against E15 a couple years back. Currently the highest allowable ethanol content in fuel classified as 'regular unleaded' is up to 10%, or E10.

Also, I find the statement you included a bit funny, since Ethanol typically lowers combustion chamber temps, allowing you to run higher amounts of timing for increased HP. With the proper tune and fuel system, E85 offers a significant increase in power in just about any application.

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Yep, that video is from Dec. 2012.
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Unread 02-21-2014, 11:11 AM   #3
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What next? Jeez.
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What next? Jeez.
... just imagine the size of the explosion in a rear end collision...
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Unread 02-21-2014, 11:59 AM   #5
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Unless something recently changed, the US Government voted against E15 a couple years back. Currently the highest allowable ethanol content in fuel classified as 'regular unleaded' is up to 10%, or E10. Also, I find the statement you included a bit funny, since Ethanol typically lowers combustion chamber temps, allowing you to run higher amounts of timing for increased HP. With the proper tune and fuel system, E85 offers a significant increase in power in just about any application. IBthemovetoanothersection EDIT: Yep, that video is from Dec. 2012.
Yeah, that figures. I should have just checked Snopes.com before I posted it, just like half the stuff I get from the guy who sent it.

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... Just imagine the size of the explosion in a rear end collision...
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Unread 02-21-2014, 01:15 PM   #7
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Not exactly true that E15 is not being sold. Stations in several of the Corn Belt states are selling E15 as well as E30 and other blends. If you are travelling through the Corn Belt, look at the labels on the pumps and be careful what you buy.
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Ethanol suck no matter how you slice it. It has killed many lawn mowers and weed eaters over the years. One think that she did not say is that as the ethanol breaking down is that it becomes acidic which is were the problem arises from.
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Ethanol suck no matter how you slice it. It has killed many lawn mowers and weed eaters over the years. One think that she did not say is that as the ethanol breaking down is that it becomes acidic which is were the problem arises from.
Is that what eats the rubber? Huh, makes sense, now. If they'd just drill, we wouldn't be writing about this.

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Using a Harley is funny.

Its air cooled so its temp regulation is already compromised. Then they put a closed loop fuel injection system so they pass the newer emissions standards. That in itself raises its operating temp. Being that its running a lot leaner than before.

Running stoach makes engine run hotter. They do drop a cylinder on certain models as well as hang a fan. And richen the idle mixture for more cooling effect. Depending on model.
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Unread 02-21-2014, 08:05 PM   #11
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in canada we have no ethanol 91 octane better burn better mpg
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I switched between E10 and strait gas since a local station sells the ethanol free stuff.

I've never noticed better MPG on my Saturn SL1. Just 40 cents per gallon poorer.

As for it killing small engines? Don't know. At least in my experience its not true. But I've always had 2 cycles. So I always shook the gas can Pryor to filling anything up.

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A 13 year old LawnBoy Silver Pro Series
Two 12 year old poulan pro chain saws.
One poulan pro leaf blower. That's at least 8 years old.
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I've moved this thread twice to Grand General. Please leave it there.
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I tried E85 in my 2008 F150 Super Crew 4x4 and noticed a significant reduction in mpg. My Echo weed eater and blower have both been damaged by ethanol, all of the rubber hoses and plastic fitting virtually rotted away. I even store them in the winter with no fuel in the tank or carb.
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I tried E85 in my 2008 F150 Super Crew 4x4 and noticed a significant reduction in mpg. My Echo weed eater and blower have both been damaged by ethanol, all of the rubber hoses and plastic fitting virtually rotted away. I even store them in the winter with no fuel in the tank or carb.
My cummins regularly would rot the fuel return line from the injector pump. And every three of those the rubber line coming from tank would crack and split.

Edit. And its a diesel. No ethanol. I say fuel lines are now just junk.
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