Dana 35 with 4.56 ----> Detroit tru trac ? - Page 2

besthaticouldo · 03-17-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YHC2000WJ

Blasphemy! The 44a uses a ring gear thats almost the size of a D60 and the shafts are 30 spline and a good bit larger in diameter.

with a soft aluminum center section thats prone to bending...

i'd rather dump money into my d35 then a d44a any time.

i've also heard the pinion isn't nearly as strong, and that the shafts are not the weak point, but are prone to bending because the axle can bow because of the center section.

plus, a ****ty aftermarket.

rugermack · 03-17-2010, 11:45 AM

Just so you know the true trac doesn't come in 30 spline only 27. I picked up barely used 30 spline axles for $100 bucks and 30 spline detroit locker for $150 and made/welded my own trusses for free. Now my d35 is pretty strong, but I only plan on running 31s or maybe 32s.

gatorayde · 03-17-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by besthaticouldo

with a soft aluminum center section thats prone to bending...

i'd rather dump money into my d35 then a d44a any time.

i've also heard the pinion isn't nearly as strong, and that the shafts are not the weak point, but are prone to bending because the axle can bow because of the center section.

plus, a ****ty aftermarket.

Put a good truss on it and all those weaknesses go away.

**ratmonkey** · 03-17-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by besthaticouldo

the d44a is not really stronger then the d35 at all, so for the people telling him to switch please stop.

honestly if i were you i'd look into the tru trac and some beefier axle shafts. the d35 isn't strong by any means, but if you're not doing heavy wheeling and only running 33s or so you should be fine.

the tru trac is a good idea, i plan on getting them for front and rear.

i want what you're smoking, the 44a is much stronger than the d35.

**ratmonkey** · 03-17-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by besthaticouldo

with a soft aluminum center section thats prone to bending...

i'd rather dump money into my d35 then a d44a any time.

i've also heard the pinion isn't nearly as strong, and that the shafts are not the weak point, but are prone to bending because the axle can bow because of the center section.

plus, a ****ty aftermarket.

the 44a, with a truss, will handle massive abuse on 35's. the d35 is lucky to get 33's with a super 35 kit.

lakailimited06 · 03-17-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rugermack

Just so you know the true trac doesn't come in 30 spline only 27. I picked up barely used 30 spline axles for $100 bucks and 30 spline detroit locker for $150 and made/welded my own trusses for free. Now my d35 is pretty strong, but I only plan on running 31s or maybe 32s.

they do not make 30 spline upgraded shafts for the WJ or have any lockers to go with it...you coudl always do something custom i guess..

however alloy usa has "stronger" 27 spline shafts for the WJ D35 and stronger 30 spline shafts for the 44a....

i wouldnt have spent money on gears for the D35 i myself have already made that mistake...should have went with a 44a but if you wheel smart im sure you;ll be fine with the D35...good choice with 4.56 to i actually made the mistake of going with 4.10s lol so thats 2 mistakes...theyre ok with 31's but 33's im not to sure about..

VanBCguy · 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amauri

The main issue with D35's is that the bend. If your not wheeling hard you should be OK, it's not the optimal setup but it's to late now. Maybe truss it if you wanna spend more money on it. If you can return the gears and at least put in a D44a, it bolts right in. Its better to over engineer than to have to do it twice.

X2. Even though you're not rock climbing, etc., the D35 set-up you have sounds like a grenade waiting to go off. Can you return the unused gears, go to a scrap yard, find a D44a and then gear that appropriately? You're going to be spending so much money on new gears, Tru-Trac and if you have to pay labour, even more. Why waste it? Do it right the first time. Or for us Canadians, as Mike Holmes says: "Make it right!".

As for Tru-Trac, I don't have any personal experience with them, but have only heard good tings about their streetability.

**CostcoPizza** · 03-17-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VanBCguy

as Mike Holmes says: "Make it right!"..

I freaking love that guy lol

fireman33 · 03-17-2010, 02:24 PM

I know i should put a d44a and do it right the fist time, but over here im limited in junk yard and i know i will have a hell of a hard time to find that diff

... the way i drive the jeep and the way i wheel it offroad...id be surprise to break a d35.

**Technohead** · 03-17-2010, 03:37 PM

The following video was taken during a recent trail ride. Notice how both front tires are digging in at the end. That is a Tru-Trac working.

YouTube - Trail Ride - Oct 09

fireman33 · 03-17-2010, 03:39 PM

Seems to work good ! cool video, mine will be put in the rear...hopefully it will work as good as that !

austentatious · 04-07-2010, 08:57 AM

Okay well i have a question. I have the opportunity to get a true trac for my d30 for cheap. Its used but im really wanting to get a locker. Would this thing chew up my tires on the pavement? Its my daily driver and i really dont want to have to worry about my tires being destroyed. I know that a lot of people are putting the aussie in the front and that was another option for me but i could get the true trac for a lot less. So any opinions would be great. I really dont care about noise so that isnt a problem

xgerstandtx · 04-07-2010, 09:18 AM

The trutrac is ideal up front. It will not hinder on road driving manners and won't pull you any way if you get ice or snow.

The trutracs are hugely populor since they are a Gear driven LSD. vs a friction plate LSD.

They only place you will notice a trutrac not working to its full potential is when you get 1 wheel in the air, than it will act like a open differential. when all wheels are on the ground they are awesome and a good mild alternative to a "lunchbox" locker

**Bama_WJ** · 04-07-2010, 09:56 AM

I ran the TrueTrac in my D35 before I blew it up and it worked great. Was invisible on the road. Locked up good on the trails. The only thing was what the previous poster said, it won't work if one wheel is in the air. Well, every time I got to Badlands, that happens a few times. It also won't work well if one tire is in something slick, like ice or maybe some soupy mud. So, that's what made me step up to an Aussie in the D44a that I have now.

I've had the Aussie in mine for about 4 months now. I love it. The on road manners aren't as bad as you think. You kind of have to start a different driving habit, but it's really not bad. It just sounds like your on a roller coaster when you go around turns. I think it's kind of cool.