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Dana 35 with 4.56 ----> Detroit tru trac ?
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Dana 35 with 4.56 ----> Detroit tru trac ?
I am currently on 3.55 but i ordered 4.56 gears for the d30 and d35.
My futur plan is putting a locker in the rear but i though maybe it would be a good idea to do the gears and the locker in the same time...i was wondering if the tru trac is a good choice for the d35. Im not doing any crazy off roading, no rock crawling...only mud and snow pretty much. The jeep is my dd and i want to know if that locker is streetable at all...dont want something that will jerk when i do sharp turn on the pavement... Anyone as some good info for me...anyone who has run them ? are you happy with it, anything that i would need to know about the tru trac ? Cheers, Pascal
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Tru-Trac is definitely a good traction aid for the application you describe. You don't even want to think about regearing without doing the traction-aiding differential at the same time or else you are just wasting an (expensive) gear setup job.
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personally i think you should have ditched the D35 and gone to a D44a with an aussie locker
since thats no longer an option and you have already ordered your gears though... IMHO a true trac would be good for the front axle, but for mud and whatnot, i would put an actual locker in the rear, an aussie or something similar i run a true trac in my front axle and when on pavement, you cant even tell its there, so to answer your question it is very streetable the Aussie will have worse road manners but will be better offroad
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I would rather have the locker that behaves the best on the pavement since im on it 95% of the time...i really dont want to break something in my diff because both my wheels would be locked while taking a turn. I know i shoulda went with D44a but im way to lazy to search the scrap yard for that...and about the front id rather leave it open. I had a toyota tacoma last year, it was locked in the rear with the e-locker and i had ARB in the front and for my application which is mud and snow...there was not a big difference if the front was locked or not, the rear was doing all the work...i imagine having the front locked up would be a nice thing for rock crawling though
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Whatever locker you pick, install it with the gears; otherwise you're going to pay for two gear setups (or spend your time doing two setups). You basically have a few options for lockers: tru trac, ARB, E-locker, or OX. You're looking at putting a lot of cash into a turd.
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Im thinking the same way also...im dealing with nick at kolak...and he sells the ox locker for like 800 and the detroit for 450...so thats why im leaning towards the tru trac...just want to make sure nobody had some really negative experiences with it...
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I have not heard of alot of negative things. There are times when people wish for a little more than the Gear Driven LSD but For the street and occasional mud bath you will be just fine. It will get around fine on the street and be quiet. Just remember you are not gonna have a strong axle, so try to keep from following the big dogs. 27spline shafts and that axle flex means trouble. Good luck and have fun.
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The main issue with D35's is that the bend. If your not wheeling hard you should be OK, it's not the optimal setup but it's to late now. Maybe truss it if you wanna spend more money on it. If you can return the gears and at least put in a D44a, it bolts right in. Its better to over engineer than to have to do it twice.
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I wish i had that diff already but like you said its too late now...but i dont do any hardcore off roading at all...i really take care of the jeep when i wheel it...i flex the suspension quit a bit but i always approach everything slowly so i dont break something...and if i dont get through...i back up and try another line lol. Im not the type of guy that will rock the jeep over obstacles in order to get through haha. Personally i doudbt that i would break the d35...but if im bad lucky enough to break it ill look for a d44a. My main concern right now is just to make sure the tru trac will be good on the street and that off road it will provide me a much better traction compared to the open differential...and that its a tough locker that will not break on me...and so far it seems like its a good buy
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Since your spending the money on the d35, I would upgrade to 30 spline axles and locker, and of course you can truss it. The 30 spline axle are as strong as stock d44 axles, plus they are alloy or a stronger material so they are actually stronger than the stock d44s.
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Well for right now all i can afford is the gears and locker so it kinda tie my hands haha...ill probably get this set up for now...and now that i know its kinda wimpy and easy to break...i will be easy on it for sure and try to make it last a few years.
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the d44a is not really stronger then the d35 at all, so for the people telling him to switch please stop.
honestly if i were you i'd look into the tru trac and some beefier axle shafts. the d35 isn't strong by any means, but if you're not doing heavy wheeling and only running 33s or so you should be fine. the tru trac is a good idea, i plan on getting them for front and rear.
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I run 265 70 17...and thats big enough for me...not too small and i love the look. i think its like 31.6 or something close. thanks for your encouragement haha...im still debating right now if i order the locker or not...i have until tonight to decide, but im pretty sure i will...im a compulsive buyer hahaha
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you're fine. order the tru-trac and then save for some better axle shafts.
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Blasphemy! The 44a uses a ring gear thats almost the size of a D60 and the shafts are 30 spline and a good bit larger in diameter.
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