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06-02-2011, 02:38 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
Posts: 4,066
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Daily Driver 5.9 build thread - bumpers, tube rockers, etc..
As some may notice from my signature, I'm building an XJ that has Unimog 404 portal axles, 42" Pitbull Rockers, full cage, etc.. My ZJ is the tow rig and my daily driver so I don't want it to be overly built.
Being a Jeep guy, I can't resist taking my ZJ out on the easier trails sometimes. So it needs to be built so that it can take some rock rash without trashing the body panels. Finally had the time to start building it to better suit my needs for a "sunday wheeler".
I bought the ZJ last July, in absolutely mint condition. Zero rust, ~90k miles, all original. I couldn't keep it like that for too long, so I added 2" budget boost, longer shocks, some fender trimming and 32 x 11.50 BFG KM2s.
I drove it like that for the winter, and wheeled it occasionally..
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-02-2011, 02:44 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-02-2011, 02:49 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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I then started stripping the front-end, so I can build the front bumper and tube fenders.
Some unnecessary sheetmetal cut off:
Some front uniframe stiffeners - I know they are short. That will be addressed later on this summer
Burned them in..
Then to the tube fenders:
Front fender in place for test fit:
Burn in some sheetmetal and you're done.
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-02-2011, 02:56 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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..then started on the front bumper. It's a 100% weld-in, non-removable pile of tube and metal plate.
First extended and strengthened the front horn some (2" x 4" box steel, 3/16" wall):
..add a tube in between:
Then started on the new radiator support/ crossbar thingy:
..add some more tube..
..and it's done:
..well, it's not entirely done. I need to add a winchplate on top, and also something to protect the lower part of the A/C condenser and radiator. It's pretty easily damaged that way
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-02-2011, 03:03 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-02-2011, 09:11 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Farmington, MN
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Sweet! Looking tough!

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It moans and groans, whines and whirrs, sputters and sparks.
It gets me there and back, it's my JEEP!!
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06-05-2011, 07:55 AM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-05-2011, 08:15 AM
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zj tractor
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i realy like how you did both fenders and bumpers...
after KOH i will have to work that into our cage.
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It's threads like this that make me wonder why people lift there jeeps
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its comments like this that make me wonder why some people are jerks.
build thread: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/...ndard-1056365/
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06-05-2011, 09:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Oh man, I love your work....
I've got mine cut the same way front and rear.
You've done pretty much exactly what I picture in my mind every time I look at my Jeep
What size is the tubing?
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06-05-2011, 10:30 AM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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Tubing is mostly 1.75" OD .120" HREW, front cross-tubes are slightly bigger at ~1.9" OD (48mm, metric- standard tubing). Plating is between .120" -> .250" depending on the area. Rear corners are thickest, front tube fender panels are .120
As mentioned, I'm gonna add belly and gas tank skids. Probably will also weld tubes to the rockers the protect the doors a little more, and also for the ability to "swing around" rocks using the tubes.
I need to figure out a good way to mount my hitch - living in the EU, it has to be ECE/ e-code approved so I can't fab my own. On the other hand, I do have my old hitch which has the approval plate, I may just pop- rivet that plate to a DIY- hitch so it passes inspection and possible road-side checks by the local police
edit: Oh, the stock CAs will have to go. I haven't even been doing any serious wheeling with my ZJ, but both front lowers are bent, and one of the uppers is trashed as well. Looks like I'm starting to develop some DW issues too, which I think is the result from the bent CAs and over-flexed ball-joint end of the stock track bar. Need to address those issues as well. ..and I thought to keep this 100% stock when I bought it
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-16-2011, 03:19 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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06-29-2011, 08:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Washington, DC
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Damn dude, you are on a roll! Those front fenders are exactly what I need to install for a little protection, plus to remain legal. All the tube work looks great. You sure are wheeling your DD pretty hard for not wanting to build it up haha.
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1998 Cherokee Classic - White - 5" lift - 35" tires - locked/geared/shafted/armored
2004 Grand Cherokee Overland - Stock DD
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06-30-2011, 12:33 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland - on the European side of the Atlantic
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Thanks  Yeap, the road legality issue was the reason for fabbing the front tube fenders - and of course protection when wheeling. Local laws here in Finland require the tire tread to be completely covered by fenders, sidewall may stick out.
I actually think the whole outer tubework came out pretty nice. I still need to finish both front and rear bumpers. Also, the more I look at the section at rear doors missing the tube, the more I think I gotta fill that gap with tube  The problem is, if I do so I gotta hack rear doors and re-weld them
I haven't been doing anything too serious with the ZJ and intend to keep the body in good shape, but the stock CAs clearly can't take any abuse  Bending the tranny oil pan was purely my mistake, I sorta forgot I was driving such a low vehicle when going over a rocky section on a trail
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1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 LX daily driver, 1.75" BB, 32" KM2s, HPD30 Eaton e-locker/D44a stock LSD, 4.56 gears, custom- fabbed tube bumpers and tube fenders,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/d...s-etc-1222317/
1990 XJ Limited (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, ***rolled and totalled @ 165k miles***
***Under construction***
1990 XJ (4-door), 4.0 I6, AW4, NP242, PBR 42" tires, Unimog 404 portal axles, 110" WB, full cage + uniframe completely rebuilt, front 3-link + panhard / double triangulated 4-link rear,...
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...ternal-973910/
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07-04-2011, 12:25 PM
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Location: palm coast, fl
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I love the way this Zj is turning out!!!!
I'm very jealous!!!
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2004 Chevy Malibu, red, 2.2 ecotec, shiny wheels, loud stereo
2000 Suzuki SV650N, V-twin, Yoshimura Exhaust, Custom Rashed Paint Job...
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07-04-2011, 12:26 PM
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Location: Grass Valley, CA
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if you ran a tube from the rear bumper to the sliders it would strengthen it up a little more.
but nice work man
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