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Unread 08-07-2011, 08:18 PM   #181
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^ It's possible to build a stroker without raising compression. Might need custom pistons though.

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Unread 08-07-2011, 08:55 PM   #182
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high comp + boost is a no-no really though..if your gonna rip it open for custom pistons, put low comp in there so you can run more boost, and have safer tunes.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:02 PM   #183
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Well I do not know of an option for Forced Induction on the 4.0. But there is FI as you know and have for the 4.7

FI for the 4.7 and Stroke for the 4.0
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:30 PM   #184
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as fun as boosting or blowing my 4.0 sounds, if I were to make any mods it would be naturally aspirated stroker simply because of the wealth of information out there. That and I'm really looking for some more low end power (screams v8)
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:37 PM   #185
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as fun as boosting or blowing my 4.0 sounds, if I were to make any mods it would be naturally aspirated stroker simply because of the wealth of information out there. That and I'm really looking for some more low end power (screams v8)
Yea if I'm gonna do engine mods its gonna be bored and stroked over boosting
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:40 PM   #186
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Yea if I'm gonna do engine mods its gonna be bored and stroked over boosting
And I'm not going to give in to modifications until the following conditions are met:
- Cant hold OD on the highway doing 70
- Dont have option of trading up to a different color WJ with a v8 (although I will specifically look for a white v8 WJ cus then nobody will notice , especially the PO my grandma because Im not trying to look ungrateful for/take advantage of the deal she gave me on it)
- Have sufficient research/knowledge of strokers
-Have Rob by me for the engine build

See the thing is there was something about my old XJ that made me attached to it. My WJ I'm attached to what I'm doing to it not the WJ itself so I am not against trading it in for another one. If I had another WJ I could swap all my mods over to I would be just as happy if not happier (if it was a v8)
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:42 PM   #187
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And I'm not going to give in to modifications until the following conditions are met:
- Cant hold OD on the highway doing 70
- Dont have option of trading up to a different color WJ with a v8
- Have sufficient research/knowledge of strokers

See the thing is there was something about my old XJ that made me attached to it. My WJ I'm attached to what I'm doing to it not the WJ itself so I am not against trading it in for another one. If I had another WJ I could swap all my mods over to I would be just as happy if not happier (if it was a v8)
As much as I want to buy an 04 overland id have a hard time trading my current 04 for that.

Yea all my mods would be a pia to switch over. :P

Edit: I was having some issues holding overdrive on the turnpike holding 70-80. It held the od but I was having to hit the gas to the point where the instant mpg was readin 12 or 13 mpg
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:45 PM   #188
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As much as I want to buy an 04 overland id have a hard time trading my current 04 for that.

Yea all my mods would be a pia to switch over. :P
I agree with you man but Damn if I could get an overland I'd take a couple of days off work get a couple more jack stands and I'd make it happen. Anything for that beautiful 4.7HO exhaust note...

Just some videos to drool over:
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:48 PM   #189
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I agree with you man but Damn if I could get an overland I'd take a couple of days off work get a couple more jack stands and I'd make it happen. Anything for that beautiful 4.7HO exhaust note...

Just some videos to drool over:
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McO0LzQGrMo
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8D8TXXoQCE
I now hate not having an overland even more now... FML!!! Why did you do that to me???

Did you read my edit to previous post?
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:50 PM   #190
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Edit: I was having some issues holding overdrive on the turnpike holding 70-80. It held the od but I was having to hit the gas to the point where the instant mpg was readin 12 or 13 mpg
See thats my biggest concern, already in completely stock form I know certain hills I have to build up speed like a truck to stay in OD... thats just wrong. On flat land it doesnt seem to have a problem but I'm worried what will happen when I add upwards of 400lbs of a bumper winch and extra gear to it... thats like driving with a Jeep full of passengers, which you do feel in the pedal. Then on top of that add 31's and I'm pretty sure the i6 will try and murder you

and ps... sorry but I had to infect you... I have those videos favorited and watch them on a normal basis
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:55 PM   #191
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See thats my biggest concern, already in completely stock form I know certain hills I have to build up speed like a truck to stay in OD... thats just wrong. On flat land it doesnt seem to have a problem but I'm worried what will happen when I add upwards of 400lbs of a bumper winch and extra gear to it... thats like driving with a Jeep full of passengers, which you do feel in the pedal. Then on top of that add 31's and I'm pretty sure the i6 will try and murder you

and ps... sorry but I had to infect you... I have those videos favorited and watch them on a normal basis
Exactly what I'm thinking too. I really need that extra power sometimes... I got pissed at my jeep today on a hill and kicked it to second gear and was doing 60 mph in second gear up this hill... my mpg had to be crap but I was getting mad at no power.

Another option is to go DEEP on gears for the axles. Was thinking about that at one point.

Yea I understand, I keep shopping for them like I can actually get one... like that would fly with my mom/dad. Trading in my wj since we've had it since like 5 miles on the odo. I just have to much attachment too

Only thing I want to change about my jeep is: get maching bumpers, stroke it, lift it, leather seats. And I don't have to buy an overland to do that.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:56 PM   #192
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ps on the topic of fuel mileage


I coasted down to 65 (most efficient speed) and set cruise... no haters allowed re: this video. Flat ground, plenty of space around me, cruise control set... I get great mileage right now... the BB didnt seem to affect it much thankfully.

Edit: I know the ARB Bumper is going to screw up my aero pretty bad but we'll see... I think I'm not gunna get horrible mileage till the 3.5" RR lift and 31's that I'm planning on getting. I feel you on the 2nd gear downshift it really confuses the heck outta ya when suddenly you're doing 4k RPM and the intake is whining like a life guard's whistle. Its worse when cruise is on because it just keeps trying to put the pedal down more till it hits the floor then I have to explain to my passengers why my Jeep suddenly just accelerated randomly like a bat out of hell. Mine also likes to hold 2nd gear and go 5-6mph over what my cruise was set at.. weird
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:59 PM   #193
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ps on the topic of fuel mileage

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2zKYPL6wDc

no haters allowed flat ground, plenty of space around me, cruise control set... I get great mileage right now... the BB didnt seem to affect it much thankfully.
Yea that's about what I get on the flat ground on cruise. But hills it goes to shi*
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Unread 08-07-2011, 10:27 PM   #194
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^ It's possible to build a stroker without raising compression. Might need custom pistons though.
I agree, buy What's the point in building a stroker motor if your not raising your compression ratio?
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Unread 08-07-2011, 10:39 PM   #195
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ps on the topic of fuel mileage

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2zKYPL6wDc

I coasted down to 65 (most efficient speed) and set cruise... no haters allowed re: this video. Flat ground, plenty of space around me, cruise control set... I get great mileage right now... the BB didnt seem to affect it much thankfully.

Edit: I know the ARB Bumper is going to screw up my aero pretty bad but we'll see... I think I'm not gunna get horrible mileage till the 3.5" RR lift and 31's that I'm planning on getting. I feel you on the 2nd gear downshift it really confuses the heck outta ya when suddenly you're doing 4k RPM and the intake is whining like a life guard's whistle. Its worse when cruise is on because it just keeps trying to put the pedal down more till it hits the floor then I have to explain to my passengers why my Jeep suddenly just accelerated randomly like a bat out of hell. Mine also likes to hold 2nd gear and go 5-6mph over what my cruise was set at.. weird
Haha I have nasty kick down when on hard in 3rd gear and press even harder to kick to 2nd. It just such a hard shift. The 42re sucks balls.

Why did jeep put the 4.o and the 42re in the wjs... smh.
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