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Unread 05-11-2010, 01:45 PM   #31
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Looks good. Do you have any problems with the wheels or tires clearing the calipers or any rubbing? I bought 16x8 Cragar Soft 8s with 5" backspacing, but I didn't even buy tires because I was told that 16x8s with 5" backspacing wouldn't clear the brake calipers. But it seems to look good on yours. Tires I was planning on buying are 265/70/16 A/Ts. I also bought a 2" Daystar BB coil spring kit.
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Most WJ's came stock with 16x7's with 6" backspacing. The 15" steelies are the ones that some people have to grind the calipers down a bit to fit. You will be fine with 16's. I also have 265/70/16's but I went with an MTR. Which A/T's are you looking at?

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Unread 05-11-2010, 03:54 PM   #32
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I was looking at Firestone Destination A/Ts. I'm a tight budget for the time being and lots of reviews said they were a great tire for the price. I'm not looking to get into serious offroading yet, so I figured this would be a good start.
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Unread 05-11-2010, 04:01 PM   #33
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Ive heard good things about those tires, and they are relatively cheap.

Have you looked at treadwrights AT tires? They dont have any in the 265/70/16 size, but they have a ton of 32's (265/75/16) or 30.5's (255/70/16) They are retread tires, but I have their MTR's and they are awesome. For $85 for 32's or $75 for 30.5's per tire, you cant beat it. People on here have reported going 40-50k miles or more on a set of MTR's. Im sure you could get more than that out of the A/T's. Ive had mine for about 3k miles now and they look brand new. (And Im not exactly nice to them at stop lights either )
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Unread 05-11-2010, 04:43 PM   #34
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No, I haven't looked at Treadwrights. I'll have to check them out.
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Unread 05-11-2010, 06:39 PM   #35
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How are the Guard Dog M/Ts on the road? Wet/dry traction? Noise?
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Unread 05-11-2010, 06:46 PM   #36
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How are the Guard Dog M/Ts on the road? Wet/dry traction? Noise?
Not bad at all. I have had zero traction issues. I went through the last two months of winter and nasty snow storms in michigan with a broken 247 transfercase, so I only had rear wheel drive and didnt have any issues. I was pretty surprised with them. They are obviously a little louder than an A/T, but they arent near as loud as other MT's Ive heard.

They are the same tread pattern as the goodyear MTR's. If you google those, you can see all of the reviews and stats.

I should be taking them to the sand dunes for the first time here in a few weeks. Im excited to see how they do on sand.
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Unread 05-11-2010, 08:00 PM   #37
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i have treadwright guard dogs and love them but theyre as noisy as any other cheap mud tire, better manners though, but the noise is killin me. great on/off road, performance seems to rival the MTR it's imitating. these tires are beef though, im a mechanic on farm and commercial equipment and i beat the piss out of these tires, in fact today i accidently drove over a bunch of broken cinder blocks, no tire damage, just front bumper damage lol. iceland here i come

love the 265/75/16's size, had to trim a bit off the bumper, these run a bit big for a 265/75
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Do you think those 265/70/R16 Guard Dog M/Ts would fit with only 2" BB coil spacers? They look like they run a little big. They look like they might rub against the front of the rear wheel well if the Jeep was a couple of inches lower.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 01:35 PM   #39
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They are actually a 30.6 inch tire. I had to trim to fit them at 4" so I assume you will more than likely need to trim to fit them at 2". They will also rub your rear shocks and possibly front lower control arms with stock wheels because they are much wider than the stock tires.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 02:00 PM   #40
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I see. I have 16x8 Cragar Soft 8s with 5" backspacing that I was gonna run em on.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 02:03 PM   #41
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That will definitely help with the shocks and control arms. But they will more than likely still rub on the bumper cover. Also, if you do any wheeling, they will likely eat up your inner fender walls without some extended bumpstops.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 02:19 PM   #42
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Did you have any problems with rubbing on the rear tire wheel wells? I'm looking at either the 265/70R16 Treadwright Guard Dog M/Ts or 255/70R16 Puma A/Ts. If the 265s prove to be too big with just 2" BB I'll go with the 255s.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 02:29 PM   #43
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No problem with the rears at all. The thing you need to ask yourself is how much and what kind of wheeling you are going to do. The A/T may be a better tire for you overall because it will be quieter on the road, it will not be quite so harsh on your gas mileage, and it will perform just as well if not better than the MTR's on most terrains. Sure, the MTR's look sweet, but in the long run, are they really worth it?

Once my MTR's are shot, I will probably move back to an A/T simply because I dont have time to wheel quite as much as I hoped. And it is my daily driver, so the added MPGs and less road noise will be awesome. Ill probably go with the 265/75/16 Wardens my next time around. I havent seen anyone running those puma's but being made by treadwright and for the price, I dont think you can go wrong with those.
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Yeah, I've been debating this for a while now. My Jeep is my daily driver and I don't plan on doing any serious off-roading for the time being. I just wanted a more aggressive look with a slightly wider stance, bigger tires and a small amount of lift.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 03:05 PM   #45
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I think an A/T would be perfect for you then. The 255/70's will fill up your wheel wells nicely and on some wheels with 5" bs will give you the wider stance and the A/T tread will make them look more aggressive than a street tire while not being so aggressive that they are annoying to drive with everyday. They will also provide better road manners (softer ride and better handling) than an MTR.
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