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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:13 PM   #31
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The lifted jeep. In my opinion, there wasn't much noticeable difference than with the upcountry suspension I already had, but I'm sure the difference will show on the trails.

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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:15 PM   #32
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Some pics after the new tires / wheels. The 2nd one below shows the painted rear bumper insert and the rear park sensors.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:18 PM   #33
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Front suspension- The orange box is the disconnect. The pink box is what stores the link when it is disconnected. I mounted this to the front skid plate. Note that someone said the rough country quick disconnect is too long for a 3" lift. In my opinion, that may be true, but all it did was make the front sway bar angle up more and I haven't had any problems.

Edit here: I found out that in order to add the thing in the pink box to hold the swaybar link connector when disconnected. Line up one at a time. Start with the driver side and make sure you are clear of any moving parts at full turn. Then, with the drivers side disconnected from the axle, put it on the holder. Then go to the passenger side to mark the holes for that side. If you line them up independently like I did the first time, they will not both reach the holder, just one at a time.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:20 PM   #34
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Looks good.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:22 PM   #35
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More pics.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:27 PM   #36
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In summary, I need a daily driver and wanted a more capably offroad suspension, so I'm very happy and she drives better than stock in my opinion. I would have saved money to get a budget boost with my upcountry suspension and the jeep would have looked the same. However the IRO 3" kit will perform better offroad. I never experienced death wobble, but I did install the steering stabalizer. I've read a lot about clunking sounds, especially with the disconnects. I did hear rattling, and found that it was my fault for not tightening the rear top shock bolts. After that and alignment the jeep drives tighter / stiffer than before. Even though it is lifted a little more, it seems like it can corner faster. The rake of the lift looks fine to me and I shouldn't have to worry about rubbing with the bump stop extensions. I do need to take some lift measurements and flexed pics. Let me know if you have any questions...
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Unread 11-21-2011, 05:46 AM   #37
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isn't the track bar mounted in a wrong position?
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Unread 11-21-2011, 09:19 AM   #38
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isn't the track bar mounted in a wrong position?
Shouldn't be! I referenced this thread http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...bar-wj-976511/ for a pic and also followed the instructions that said the bent side goes on the passenger side and the thing kinda looks like a J. The instructions were not very concise, so this forum helped a lot.
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Unread 11-21-2011, 09:30 AM   #39
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WJ looks good I went with the IRO 4" lift and it's been great so far. The Moab's look great black too
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Unread 11-21-2011, 09:51 PM   #40
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Pic with the ski rack and short antennae. No idea why jeep stopped the black antennaes, but I think they did for my year, 2003.
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Unread 12-10-2011, 03:52 PM   #41
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Washed and Waxed Pic.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 07:48 PM   #42
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Did the folding seat, quick release pin mod today. If you look at the date I bought the materials, it only took about 3 months. It was worth the hour or so today to get those pins off the back floor board. The materials needed are 5/16" drill bit, 10mm socket and 4 lock pins 5/16" x 2-3/4" ($3 each). I'm sure there's been a write-up before, but I wanted to add a few more pictures.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 07:50 PM   #43
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The first step is to take a 10mm socket and unscrew the seat retaining bolts (4 per folding seat section).
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Unread 12-20-2011, 07:53 PM   #44
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Next, take both sections out the jeep. Then remove the existing pin. I tried 2 methods A. cut each of the pins with a grinder or dremmel like the pic below (if you have a good cutting wheel, you can cut all 4 pins in about 1 minute). Then knock the pins out.
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Unread 12-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #45
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B. The other method is to take the 5/16" drill bit and drill the pins out. The trick to doing this is a lot of pressure on the end of the pin that is hollow (vs. the other end that is a more solid head). Once you have the pins remove, ream out the holes a little larger than 5/16" (not too much or it will be loose, not to little or it will be tought to re-align the new pins).
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